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> Secondly, your premise is incorrect. It's the NFL that has a rule against drafting players out of high school, not society. I'm not sure how you could have i

by nkozyra 11y ago

> Secondly, your premise is incorrect. It's the NFL that has a rule against drafting players out of high school, not society. I'm not sure how you could have interpreted my post any other way. When I refer to "collusion" I'm speaking of that between the NFL and the NCAA. I'm aware it's the NFL's rule (in collaboration with the NCAA). > That doesn't solve the problem. Even if football athletes could go straight from high school to college as in basketball and baseball, college football will still be a huge moneymaker, and the athletes will remain broke. Actually, this solves a lot of problems. First, that there is more than one route to the NFL. If you're 18, insanely talented and want to go to the NFL, you don't have to waste everyone's time pretending to be a student for 3 years. Colleges can focus more on academics instead of the charade it is now. And if you have the skills necessary to make money out of high school, you have an avenue to do so.

lern_too_spel 11y ago
Let me get this straight. Your proposal is to force the NFL to draft players out of high school? How would that work? They'll simply say that none of the athletes are developed enough and pick them out of the college programs as they do now. How would the regulators know? More importantly, even if players could be recruited out of high school as in basketball, it doesn't solve the problem, and we know this because it hasn't solved the problem for basketball. (College baseball and college soccer were never moneymakers and never will be, so not even the coaches and administrators make money, and we can ignore them for now.) The second tier players will still play in college, where all the non-athletes involved with the NCAA will still make bank, and the athletes will still stay broke.
- wldcordeiro 11y ago
  I think the user's proposed solution is really more in line with kill/modify the NCAA so that it is a minor league and emulate the baseball style drafting system so that players can go straight to the sport.
- nkozyra 11y ago
  > Your proposal is to force the NFL to draft players out of high school? Force? No. I have no idea where you've conjured that. > More importantly, even if players could be recruited out of high school as in basketball, it doesn't solve the problem, and we know this because it hasn't solved the problem for basketball. Well that's because basketball still has a similar rule. You must be out of high school one year. It's the same disingenuous nod toward academics and amateurism. The NBA had this solved before one-and-done was (re)instituted. > The second tier players will still play in college, where all the non-athletes involved with the NCAA will still make bank, and the athletes will still stay broke. I don't think you read what I wrote. I proposed that by eliminating his rule the NFL would likely go back to having a developmental league where kids could either get drafted out of high school or go to college, depending on their goals.

by nkozyra 11y ago

lern_too_spel 11y ago

Let me get this straight. Your proposal is to force the NFL to draft players out of high school? How would that work? They'll simply say that none of the athletes are developed enough and pick them out of the college programs as they do now. How would the regulators know? More importantly, even if players could be recruited out of high school as in basketball, it doesn't solve the problem, and we know this because it hasn't solved the problem for basketball. (College baseball and college soccer were never moneymakers and never will be, so not even the coaches and administrators make money, and we can ignore them for now.) The second tier players will still play in college, where all the non-athletes involved with the NCAA will still make bank, and the athletes will still stay broke.

wldcordeiro 11y ago
I think the user's proposed solution is really more in line with kill/modify the NCAA so that it is a minor league and emulate the baseball style drafting system so that players can go straight to the sport.
nkozyra 11y ago
> Your proposal is to force the NFL to draft players out of high school? Force? No. I have no idea where you've conjured that. > More importantly, even if players could be recruited out of high school as in basketball, it doesn't solve the problem, and we know this because it hasn't solved the problem for basketball. Well that's because basketball still has a similar rule. You must be out of high school one year. It's the same disingenuous nod toward academics and amateurism. The NBA had this solved before one-and-done was (re)instituted. > The second tier players will still play in college, where all the non-athletes involved with the NCAA will still make bank, and the athletes will still stay broke. I don't think you read what I wrote. I proposed that by eliminating his rule the NFL would likely go back to having a developmental league where kids could either get drafted out of high school or go to college, depending on their goals.