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Two pieces of (coming soon) good news: - very soon, you wont need to install anything to use IPFS. it will "just work" with js on today's browsers. - for best

Two pieces of (coming soon) good news: - very soon, you wont need to install anything to use IPFS. it will "just work" with js on today's browsers. - for best perf, yes, we need browser implementations. and... those have begun :)

fabrice_d 11y ago
Cool! Do you have links to browser implementations?
lallysingh 11y ago
Are those implementations extensions or do they require native code changes?
sdoering 11y ago
OK, as apparently .js is the defacto thing to build cool sites, I for one will be left out here. On sites not known to me, I typically block most (read all) .js at first, just to make sure that these sites do not leak too much information about me to external tracking tools, advertisers or the like. So using .js seems to me a bit problematic in regards of people not enabling it by default (but this is an absolut minority, if I look at the stats of the sites I analyze).
- ossreality 11y ago
  So then disable it and connect to ipfs in other ways, instead of lecturing everyone on how 90% of the web you use everyday is broken
- drdeca 11y ago
  Well, I think you can install something to use it without js, and they were just saying js would be for if someone wished to use it by simply using a webpage, with no install?
- laumars 11y ago
  I use a custom hosts file (well, technically I run it as an internal DNS server) from Someone Who Cares to block most of the aforementioned annoyances: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ It works very well for me so I'd recommend it to others, if they're not already aware of it.
  - tropin 11y ago
    I've always wondered if Windows or other operative systems read the entire hosts file everytime they want to resolve an address. Maybe a big hosts file is bad for network performance?
    - dsr_ 11y ago
      It will largely be read out of memory, since it doesn't change much and is frequently requested. Scanning 64K or so won't break a sweat compared to doing a DNS lookup across the network to a resolver that might itself need to make a request.
- nightpool 11y ago
  The first implementation of IPFS is written in Go, and it includes fully functional nodes, http gateways, and libraries, but they're also working on a node.js version (that's also compatible with browser environments) so that non-technical users can have ipfs sites "just work". (although it requires at least static content served from a "normal" http/html server)
- richmarr 11y ago
  > OK, as apparently .js is the defacto thing to build cool sites, I for one will be left out here. I doubt they're building it in JS for giggles. In order to make changes like this stick my guess would be that you need to reach a tipping point before interest fades, and to do that you need to take away the browser vendors ability to say 'no' or 'maybe later'. As you point out, people who don't run JS by default represent a tiny percentage of traffic, so would have to be a secondary concern to be supported later.
- dandelion_lover 11y ago
  One solution for people like you (and me) who care about execution of too much js could be to make the code free software. You then can allow all free js in your browser by default. See [0] for details. [0] https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs
crypt0x 11y ago
Somebody with golang-foo, firefox addon experience and a itch might also want to take a look at http://id-rsa.pub/post/go15-calling-go-shared-libs-from-firefox-addon/ http://id-rsa.pub/post/go15-calling-go-shared-libs-from-fire...

fabrice_d 11y ago

Cool! Do you have links to browser implementations?

lallysingh 11y ago

Are those implementations extensions or do they require native code changes?

sdoering 11y ago

OK, as apparently .js is the defacto thing to build cool sites, I for one will be left out here. On sites not known to me, I typically block most (read all) .js at first, just to make sure that these sites do not leak too much information about me to external tracking tools, advertisers or the like. So using .js seems to me a bit problematic in regards of people not enabling it by default (but this is an absolut minority, if I look at the stats of the sites I analyze).

ossreality 11y ago
So then disable it and connect to ipfs in other ways, instead of lecturing everyone on how 90% of the web you use everyday is broken
drdeca 11y ago
Well, I think you can install something to use it without js, and they were just saying js would be for if someone wished to use it by simply using a webpage, with no install?
laumars 11y ago
I use a custom hosts file (well, technically I run it as an internal DNS server) from Someone Who Cares to block most of the aforementioned annoyances: http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ It works very well for me so I'd recommend it to others, if they're not already aware of it.
- tropin 11y ago
  I've always wondered if Windows or other operative systems read the entire hosts file everytime they want to resolve an address. Maybe a big hosts file is bad for network performance?
  - dsr_ 11y ago
    It will largely be read out of memory, since it doesn't change much and is frequently requested. Scanning 64K or so won't break a sweat compared to doing a DNS lookup across the network to a resolver that might itself need to make a request.
nightpool 11y ago
The first implementation of IPFS is written in Go, and it includes fully functional nodes, http gateways, and libraries, but they're also working on a node.js version (that's also compatible with browser environments) so that non-technical users can have ipfs sites "just work". (although it requires at least static content served from a "normal" http/html server)
richmarr 11y ago
> OK, as apparently .js is the defacto thing to build cool sites, I for one will be left out here. I doubt they're building it in JS for giggles. In order to make changes like this stick my guess would be that you need to reach a tipping point before interest fades, and to do that you need to take away the browser vendors ability to say 'no' or 'maybe later'. As you point out, people who don't run JS by default represent a tiny percentage of traffic, so would have to be a secondary concern to be supported later.
dandelion_lover 11y ago
One solution for people like you (and me) who care about execution of too much js could be to make the code free software. You then can allow all free js in your browser by default. See [0] for details. [0] https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/freejs

crypt0x 11y ago

Somebody with golang-foo, firefox addon experience and a itch might also want to take a look at http://id-rsa.pub/post/go15-calling-go-shared-libs-from-firefox-addon/ http://id-rsa.pub/post/go15-calling-go-shared-libs-from-fire...