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It's surprising to read an article that touches on the old Boston hardcore scene without any mention of FSU. For anyone interested in more stories of Boston har

by jrkatz 11y ago

It's surprising to read an article that touches on the old Boston hardcore scene without any mention of FSU. For anyone interested in more stories of Boston hardcore and crime, take a glance at http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/punk-rock-fight-club-20070823 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/punk-rock-fight-clu...

TarpitCarnivore 11y ago
The story had very little do with hardcore and it's history in Boston so bringing up FSU wouldn't make much sense.
gamache 11y ago
The FSU link you posted and the Suckers link above are some of the best illustrations of why I considered the Boston hardcore scene to be a collection of human garbage, ca. 1995-2005. Prior to '95, it was the skinheads who would show up and ruin punk shows, often employed as bouncers by the club. Then their girlfriends all went rockabilly and they gave way to waves and waves of hahdcaw meatheads. The uniform changed, the music changed, but the fact that I was regularly catching punches, elbows, and kicks by people who rolled 10+ deep at all times did not change at all. I especially love the casual tone in which these morons can reflect on the past and say stuff like “You gotta understand, it was mayhem back then,” Wilson says. “There was 30 of us, and somehow, we’d always find 30 guys to fuck with.” Somehow.
- thwest 11y ago
  Why didn't you join up with ARA or some other Antifa?
  - gamache 11y ago
    It wasn't a job for ARA (Anti-Racist Action, for those playing along at home). The hardcore gangs, as well as the skinheads, were by and large either anti-racist (e.g. SHARP skins) or apolitical (e.g. they just like to fight). And more broadly, I didn't want to fight these groups' existence, or even their presence. I just wanted to come home from shows without chipped teeth, you know?
    - TarpitCarnivore 11y ago
      When it began spreading out of Boston and becoming more of an actual gang is when going to hardcore shows stopped being fun for me. I was tired of having to constantly worry about bumping into someone and see people get beat up for no reason just became depressing.
EvanKelly 11y ago
Elgin James was always the most interesting character in that scene to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_James https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_James I met Elgin a few times outside of Righteous Jams shows and he was always super friendly to a kid that just liked his band. EDIT: This part was always the craziest to me: While part of FSU, using a tactic learned from the United States government,[3] James and other FSU members set up an "arms for hostages" scenario in which they traded handguns with inner city gang members for pit bulls used in dog fighting rings. The dogs would then be nursed back to health and fostered until safe homes were found for them.

by jrkatz 11y ago

TarpitCarnivore 11y ago

The story had very little do with hardcore and it's history in Boston so bringing up FSU wouldn't make much sense.

gamache 11y ago

The FSU link you posted and the Suckers link above are some of the best illustrations of why I considered the Boston hardcore scene to be a collection of human garbage, ca. 1995-2005. Prior to '95, it was the skinheads who would show up and ruin punk shows, often employed as bouncers by the club. Then their girlfriends all went rockabilly and they gave way to waves and waves of hahdcaw meatheads. The uniform changed, the music changed, but the fact that I was regularly catching punches, elbows, and kicks by people who rolled 10+ deep at all times did not change at all. I especially love the casual tone in which these morons can reflect on the past and say stuff like “You gotta understand, it was mayhem back then,” Wilson says. “There was 30 of us, and somehow, we’d always find 30 guys to fuck with.” Somehow.

thwest 11y ago
Why didn't you join up with ARA or some other Antifa?
- gamache 11y ago
  It wasn't a job for ARA (Anti-Racist Action, for those playing along at home). The hardcore gangs, as well as the skinheads, were by and large either anti-racist (e.g. SHARP skins) or apolitical (e.g. they just like to fight). And more broadly, I didn't want to fight these groups' existence, or even their presence. I just wanted to come home from shows without chipped teeth, you know?
  - TarpitCarnivore 11y ago
    When it began spreading out of Boston and becoming more of an actual gang is when going to hardcore shows stopped being fun for me. I was tired of having to constantly worry about bumping into someone and see people get beat up for no reason just became depressing.

EvanKelly 11y ago

Elgin James was always the most interesting character in that scene to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_James https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_James I met Elgin a few times outside of Righteous Jams shows and he was always super friendly to a kid that just liked his band. EDIT: This part was always the craziest to me: While part of FSU, using a tactic learned from the United States government,[3] James and other FSU members set up an "arms for hostages" scenario in which they traded handguns with inner city gang members for pit bulls used in dog fighting rings. The dogs would then be nursed back to health and fostered until safe homes were found for them.