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The worst damage an individual can do to the environment, short of starting a tire fire at the dump, is to fly. Save the environment and avoid the TSA, don't fl

The worst damage an individual can do to the environment, short of starting a tire fire at the dump, is to fly. Save the environment and avoid the TSA, don't fly.

krastanov 11y ago
I am pretty sure that in terms of person-miles per gallon flying is comparable to automobiles. Are you referring to some secondary damage that flying causes?
- kuschku 11y ago
  Actually, flying is better than almost all cars sold in the US (except for the VW Up!, which comes close). An Airbus A380 uses the equivalent energy of 3l gasoline per passenger per 100km. This is a mileage of 80mpg. Only rail is more efficient.
  - ufmace 11y ago
    I remember reading somewhere that rail, and most other mass transit, isn't actually that efficient. The idea being that sure, a bus or train full of people is really efficient, but in order to get all of those people to want to ride it, you have to run a lot of empty or almost-empty vehicles around all the time. Sum up all the trips for the whole system, and it's about the same as an average-ish car.
    - kuschku 11y ago
      It obviously depends – in Tokyo, or NYC, you’ll have almost-full trains 24/7. As you obviously use smaller trains at night, and only full trains during rush hour. Even with busses, most transit authorities have lots of different sizes – from 10 people busses in rural areas at night, to bi-articulated busses for 300 people at rush hour in downtown areas. If you always try to use the same vehicle, though, yes, you get the same mileage as an average car. You still save space on the roads, though.
- happyscrappy 11y ago
  http://environment.about.com/od/greenlivingdesign/a/fly_vs_drive.htm http://environment.about.com/od/greenlivingdesign/a/fly_vs_d...
  - omginternets 11y ago
    Well next time I'll be sure to drive from Paris to New York. Thanks for the tip.
    - happyscrappy 11y ago
      Nothing would be more efficient than a boat, but that would take a serious level of commitment to the environment.

The worst damage an individual can do to the environment, short of starting a tire fire at the dump, is to fly. Save the environment and avoid the TSA, don't fly.

krastanov 11y ago

I am pretty sure that in terms of person-miles per gallon flying is comparable to automobiles. Are you referring to some secondary damage that flying causes?

kuschku 11y ago
Actually, flying is better than almost all cars sold in the US (except for the VW Up!, which comes close). An Airbus A380 uses the equivalent energy of 3l gasoline per passenger per 100km. This is a mileage of 80mpg. Only rail is more efficient.
- ufmace 11y ago
  I remember reading somewhere that rail, and most other mass transit, isn't actually that efficient. The idea being that sure, a bus or train full of people is really efficient, but in order to get all of those people to want to ride it, you have to run a lot of empty or almost-empty vehicles around all the time. Sum up all the trips for the whole system, and it's about the same as an average-ish car.
  - kuschku 11y ago
    It obviously depends – in Tokyo, or NYC, you’ll have almost-full trains 24/7. As you obviously use smaller trains at night, and only full trains during rush hour. Even with busses, most transit authorities have lots of different sizes – from 10 people busses in rural areas at night, to bi-articulated busses for 300 people at rush hour in downtown areas. If you always try to use the same vehicle, though, yes, you get the same mileage as an average car. You still save space on the roads, though.
happyscrappy 11y ago
http://environment.about.com/od/greenlivingdesign/a/fly_vs_drive.htm http://environment.about.com/od/greenlivingdesign/a/fly_vs_d...
- omginternets 11y ago
  Well next time I'll be sure to drive from Paris to New York. Thanks for the tip.
  - happyscrappy 11y ago
    Nothing would be more efficient than a boat, but that would take a serious level of commitment to the environment.