Yup a fair point, my initial reply was indeed just shooting down an idea rather than figuring out whether it would work and how could it work if not straight up

Yup a fair point, my initial reply was indeed just shooting down an idea rather than figuring out whether it would work and how could it work if not straight up (criticism vs constructive criticism). I'd be interested in seeing an ISP-level funding scheme, and moreso if enough would be willing to use it that it could feasibly replace adverts. I'll have a proper look into those links too, thank you Thinking further (or.. at all) the models that flattr but more successfully patreon provide do seem to work and would appear to be the best model if the community you're providing for is willing to use such a system - and they are, in many cases. I can think of a podcast or two that rather than use sponsored messages are funded by their community through patreon. In fact I can only imagine they're earning more and in a more stable fashion for doing so I'm not sure if an ISP-level funding source would be feasible on the global scale but that may just be my own limits talking, something that definitely works in replacement of adverts is the product (in this example a podcast) being free but with perks for those that want to support the creator directly. The easiest added extras in this example would be behind the scenes, an additional private podcast, archives of episodes long gone by.