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Walking Every Street in San Francisco
- gtani 11y agoHeh, i think after living in the Haight a bunch of years, i walked, ran, skated, rollerbladed and biked < 5% of the streets This was good, vid on the steepest sidewalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FisaHV2hQYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FisaHV2hQYc
- roflchoppa 11y agoa very cool accomplishment. it would be neat to see someone do this without the overlap of walking the same road twice.
- schoen 11y agoIt's likely not to be possible! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulerian_path https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulerian_path
- traviscj 11y agoI was going to argue that if every street had a sidewalk on both sides, then we could indeed construct an Eulerian path over sidewalks, but probably there are some streets without sidewalks on both sides.
- schoen 11y agoI was thinking it was common for alleys to have no sidewalks at all, but I looked at quite a few with Google Street View, and many do have sidewalks after all (even on both sides!). An example that I found which seems to have a sidewalk on only one side is Orange Alley, but it's complicated: sometimes the single sidewalk disappears entirely, and in tiny patches a sidewalk shows up on the other side. But I think the alleys probably will undermine your clever suggestion.
- JosephHatfield 11y agoEulerian path through SF? Sounds like a hard problem. :)
- mrdmnd 11y agoYou may be thinking of Hamiltonian paths ;)
- TheLoneWolfling 11y agoNot possible. There are > 2 intersections with an odd number of streets. (Note that this includes dead-end streets)
- jbk 11y agoIn a semi-related, semi-off-topic way, there was this challenge of going through all the subway stations of the Paris underground, during the same day (and if possible in the fastest way possible): http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/defimetro.html http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/defimetro.html [FR] The funny part was that they wrote a program to calculate and optimize the time to do that, using the length of the lines and the little public info they had; and I thought it was pretty cool. http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/metro.tgz http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/metro.tgz And of course, it was in 2002, so before the OpenData movements...
- userbinator 11y agoIt's also been attempted with buses: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19254318 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19254318 Some are probably trying with airlines too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9916974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9916974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8368727 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8368727
- jarek 11y agoAlso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subway_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subway_Challenge , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_Challenge
- js2 11y agoWhen I visited Venice last year, I briefly considered whether I could cross all of its bridges at night while the city slept. But I quickly learned that many of the bridges are private, and I didn't really have a feasable way to plan a route in the few days I was there. I'm not even sure I can figure out what/where all the bridges are. It will have to remain for a future trip, should I ever go back.
- adrianN 11y agoOSM should at least have the necessary data. Planning a route that takes you over all accessible bridges is still a bit of work though.
- schoen 11y agoOne of the biggest changes since he finished his walk is the residential conversion of Treasure Island, which is now open to the public, and home to over 1000 people, and even a few restaurants. Hopefully it's not quite as toxic as it was before. The Navy is still working on that part (as they still are down in the Hunters Point Shipyard). http://sftreasureisland.org/news-release/us-navy-hosting-october-bus-tour-ti-cleanup-sites http://sftreasureisland.org/news-release/us-navy-hosting-oct... There's still a plan to develop it more intensely, although it's been delayed repeatedly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Island_Development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Island_Development http://sftreasureisland.org/development-project http://sftreasureisland.org/development-project
- jeffreyrogers 11y agoCool :) reminds me of something similar with Manhattan: http://linkage.cpmc.columbia.edu/Manhattan_Walk/Walk.html http://linkage.cpmc.columbia.edu/Manhattan_Walk/Walk.html
- secfirstmd 11y agoHa, a bunch of us in Dublin tried to work out the optimum route for breaking the current "Guinness Book of Records" record for most pubs visited in a pub crawl. Though one of the team got a decent enough method of working out the optimum route, unfortunately some guys smashed the record in New York. We were unable to match the density of pubs in the 24 hours allowed - I think we needed to be hitting one every four minutes or something like that. I really doubt that it can ever be done anywhere other than New York any more :(
- qqg3 11y agoI think Tokyo may be able to hold its own depending on the definition of 'pub'.
- binarysolo 11y agoI was just thinking about Golden Gai! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjuku_Golden_Gai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinjuku_Golden_Gai
- twoodfin 11y agoWhat's the Guinness requirement for a stop? Does everyone have to down a pint?
- buro9 11y agoSeaside towns like Brighton or Blackpool in the UK would be good places to try. Both have considerably smaller winter populations (~circa 150k) yet have ~280 and ~400 pubs respectively, and those pubs crowd the streets around the promenade and beach-front. Brighton: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/pubs/@50.8227911,-0.1380461,15.91z https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/pubs/@50.8227911,-0.138... Blackpool: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/pubs/@53.8090219,-3.047384,14.93z https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/pubs/@53.8090219,-3.047... I suspect the biggest problem in the UK would be the shadow of licensing hours meaning that the pubs are mostly closed during the 24-hour window.
- jlarocco 11y agoNeat, but it'd be nice if the author wasn't so full of himself. The whole article is "I this...", "I that...", etc. Surely with that many words he could have come up with a narrative that wasn't so egotistical.
- icebraining 11y agoWhy is it egotistical to be proud of a personal accomplishment?
- simoncion 11y agoThe article is a first-person account of things that the author, himself has done. Would you rather he replace every occurrence of "I" with "The Author", or something equally inelegant?
- wpietri 11y agoHe's telling his own story; that's going to be a lot of "I". I don't read him as conceited at all; if anything, he's pretty humble about it.
- jlarocco 11y agoSorry, but the writing style just grates on me. "It was nuts. Totally obsessive-compulsive. Call it an exercise in eccentricity or futility, and you'd probably be right." How is that humble? A good writer would tell the story and let the reader decide how crazy and eccentric he is. There are a million ways to write about personal experiences without using "I" every other sentence and bragging about how great you are. I probably shouldn't have even said anything.
- 96701 11y agoI don't see any bragging, what you quoted seems completely neutral.
- wpietri 11y agoYou seem to be confusing "I don't like X" with "X is not good". If you don't like it, you can just say, "Neat, but that writing style isn't to my tastes." You don't have to run around expounding on the guy's character flaws and making such sweeping assertions that there's no room for anybody else to like the piece. The guy taught journalism for 20 years and was a newspaper editor for a similar stretch. Maybe take a deep breath and consider that there are kinds of good writing that you haven't yet learned to appreciate.
- icebraining 11y agoIn the same vein, see also Charles Fleming, who has been finding and mapping public staircases all over SF and LA: http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-75-secret-staircases/ http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-75-secret-stai...
- sampo 11y agoHere is someone who walked every street in Manhattan: http://linkage.cpmc.columbia.edu/Manhattan_Walk/Walk.html http://linkage.cpmc.columbia.edu/Manhattan_Walk/Walk.html
- dnautics 11y agoThat's much easier.
- ghaff 11y agoNot immediately obvious to me. Manhattan is somewhat smaller (about 33 mi^2 vs. 46) and less hilly but I'm not sure that qualifies as "much easier." Frankly, I'd probably worry more about safety in some areas of upper Manhattan than within San Francisco city limits but I'm not sure how much of that is perception vs. reality.
- Ben-G 11y agoIf you enjoy the idea you should read "The Cool Gray City of Love" by Gary Kamiya. He walked (almost) the entire city of SF and wrote wonderful chapters for most of SF's neighborhoods that also cover the history of the city.
- iraphael 11y ago> Call it an exercise in eccentricity or futility, and you'd probably be right. The art geek in me sees this 'exercise in eccentricity or futility' a rather interesting activity. Yes, he walked every street, but as he said it himself: > Nothing is forever, though. I can only claim to have walked every street in this city at this moment in time. New streets are being built as I write. He has only walked through every street in SF as they currently stand. His prize is ephemeral. Tomorrow, a coffee shop will open and he won't have seen it. Heck, coffee shops probably opened in the timespan it took for him to finish his journey. And yet, despite not being able to say "I have seen everything in SF" for long, he can still say "I have seen everything in SF at the moment I saw them". While this may seem a little obvious or silly, it shows how every experience we ever have is unique to us. I apologize for ending with a cliché but my only conclusion is that the we live for the journey, not for the destination. Because when we reach our destination - when we have finally seen every building in SF - we realize what we have seen is gone, and new things took their place.
- methodover 11y agoSomething about that is incredibly interesting to me. And for some reason it makes me sad: You cannot fully understand even a city. It takes too much time -- as soon as you understand one piece, the other pieces have changed. Cities are small, in the grand scheme of things. When it comes to larger things-- states, nations, planets, there's no way you could ever fully understand them. All you can get is a tiny, ephemeral snapshot, stuck in time. It's humbling to think about, and I don't really know why it makes me sad.
- prawn 11y agoLikewise, you can't fully understand yourself, your friends, family or partner. As with the city, you gain what understanding you can from your experience with them.
- sousousou 11y agoThis comment reminds me of a book by Italo Calvino. Probably my favorite of his. It's a collection of stories told by Marco Polo to Kublai Khan about cities in his domain. Somewhat fantastical, but strikes deep to the heart to transitory nature of cities and perception itself. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0156453800/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1441661122&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=invisible+cities+by+italo+calvino&dpPl=1&dpID=51NQqPgtVWL&ref=plSrch http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0156453800/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=...
- sbw1 11y agoThis is cool. This person did something similar on a bike: http://rideallofsf.tumblr.com/ http://rideallofsf.tumblr.com/ (go back a page or so, the project finished a while ago and it has since devolved into Strava drawings)
- stevewepay 11y agoI would have thought Market Street is the longest, although it changes its name from Market to Portola to Junipero Serra and then turns into 280.
- sundaeofshock 11y agoThe name change is because Market and Portola did not connect until about 1920 or so. http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C133%2C1112%2CE/2exact&FF=dstreets+market+1918+extension&1%2C9%2C http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C... http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C133%2C1112%2CE/2exact&FF=dstreets+market+1920+extension&1%2C4%2C http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C... http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C133%2C1112%2CE/2exact&FF=dstreets+market+1921+extension&1%2C15%2C http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C... http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C133%2C1112%2CE/2exact&FF=dstreets+market+1927+extension&1%2C7%2C http://sflib1.sfpl.org:82/search?/dStreets+M/dstreets+m/1%2C...
- dnautics 11y agoI would have guessed Geary.
- travelbug345 11y agoThis is impressive! I wonder though, which street was his favorite? Or which neighborhood, at least.
- WalterBright 11y agoIt would be fun if he'd attached a camera to his head and then made the hundreds of hours of video available!
- coldcode 11y agoOnly if you speeded it up.
- jl6 11y agoI make that about 43TB of smartphone HD video, based on his stated walking distance and speed.
- WalterBright 11y agoAbout $3,000 worth of disk drive space. Quite doable.
- femto 11y agoA similar feat in Sydney, Australia, by an old codger who was walking to keep fit. http://www.walksydneystreets.net/ http://www.walksydneystreets.net/
- jacquesc 11y agoI'd love an app to help me track this. Any know anything like this? Basically show a map of all the streets with the ones you've walked highlighted. Walking around SF is my favorite thing in the city.
- randomstring 11y agoStrava.com will generate a heat map of all the roads you've walked (or biked) on. There is even a club that seeks to "Ride Every Road" of their local town. http://www.strava.com/clubs/ride-every-road-22350 http://www.strava.com/clubs/ride-every-road-22350
- randomsearch 11y ago> Strava.com will generate a heat map of all the roads you've walked (or biked) on. Warning - I think this is a premium-only feature.
- leni536 11y agoI found OSMTracker, never used it though.
- randomsearch 11y agoIf you find one, please can you post?
- randomstring 11y agoHere is someone who bicycled every road in San Francisco. All tracked with GPS. http://rideallofsf.tumblr.com/ http://rideallofsf.tumblr.com/ And someone who walked all of Berkeley, CA back in 2007. https://walkingberkeley.wordpress.com/ https://walkingberkeley.wordpress.com/
- incompatible 11y agoThis reminds me of the novel Bleeding London by Geoff Nicholson from 1997. One of the characters is trying to walk every street of the London A-Z map. (http://www.amazon.com/Bleeding-London-Geoff-Nicholson/dp/0575400560 http://www.amazon.com/Bleeding-London-Geoff-Nicholson/dp/057...)
- Animats 11y agoWhere are the thousands of hours of GoPro video? Things like this were cooler before StreetView.
- meerita 11y agoI really like this. I could do the same for Barcelona. It will show nice views. I walked a lot, though, but not everything.
- rahula522 11y agorightly said