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Essentially anyone who doesn't share your opinion is an idiot. "I like discussion, debate, and reasoned criticism. But a lot of arguments aren’t any of those t
by seivan 11y ago
Essentially anyone who doesn't share your opinion is an idiot.
"I like discussion, debate, and reasoned criticism. But a lot of arguments aren’t any of those things. They’re the style I describe as ethnic tension, where you try to associate something you don’t like with negative affect so that other people have an instinctive disgust reaction to it.
There are endless sources of negative affect you can use. You can accuse them of being “arrogant”, “fanatical”, “hateful”, “cultish” or “refusing to tolerate alternative opinions”. You can accuse them of condoning terrorism, or bullying, or violence, or rape. You can call them racist or sexist, you can call them neckbeards or fanboys. You can accuse them of being pseudoscientific denialist crackpots.
If you do this enough, the group gradually becomes disreputable. If you really do it enough, the group becomes so toxic that it becomes somewhere between a joke and a bogeyman. Their supporters will be banned on site from all decent online venues. News media will write hit pieces on them and refuse to ask for their side of the story because ‘we don’t want to give people like that a platform’. Their concerns will be turned into bingo cards for easy dismissal. People will make Facebook memes strawmanning them, and everyone will laugh in unison and say that yep, they’re totally like that. Anyone trying to correct the record will be met with an “Ew, gross, this place has gone so downhill that the [GROUP] is coming out of the woodwork!” and totally ignored."
Sorry that your safe space and bubble bursted.
- 59nadir 11y agoNo, actually, anyone who comes into a HN thread immediately derailing it into a pointless regional political debate is an idiot. That's pretty much it. I'm sorry to burst your very long rant where you over-analyze and completely miss the mark, but people are simply embarrassed by you because you've taken this HN thread and run it into the ground without it receiving even one on-topic reply. > The discussion in these comments is embarrassing (and I'm not even Swedish). > Apparently the mere mention of Sweden was enough to make local politics spill over here. It's like watching a post about a weather app getting overrun by climate change denialists. That's the entirety of it.