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I have thought about something similar. But my thoughts are very crude and layman like. So I excuse beforehand. The basis of my thought was the fact that the o
by imakesnowflakes 11y ago
I have thought about something similar. But my thoughts are very crude and layman like. So I excuse beforehand.
The basis of my thought was the fact that the operation of a neural network depends on very precise weights. And there are physical limits (things like uncertainty principle) to the precision by which we can measure something. So supposed we discover some technique by which we can, for a given human brain, recreate all the neurons and their interconnections completely, we will never be able to measure the weights associated with the links between the neurons with absolute precision.
I think this will result in a brain that not much better than an untrained brain of a child. So you will still have to pass this new brain through a series of training to reach it's full potential.
The same thing will happen in the case of AI. If we create a perfect AI, it won't be able to make perfect copies of itself. But only untrained versions of it. I think life may be already at the limits regarding the rate at which intelligence can be advanced.
- weddpros 11y agoI agree we can't easily copy weights in neurons, but we can definitely copy weights in artificial neural nets...
- imakesnowflakes 11y agoIF we are talking about an ANN in a computer, then sure. It can be easily copied. But what about a grown network. For example, a network of resistors representing the weights, with a feed back loop that adjusts (continuously) the resistances during the learning process. After the network has attained sufficient level of AI, we won't be able to read back the final value of resistances with the required precision. So the new network will still have to go thorough a learning process.
- danieltillett 11y agoThe AI doesn’t need to be a perfect copy, just way smarter than us. We already have machines (they are called mothers and fathers) that make new intelligent machines that are not only far smarter than either the parents, but are also able to create machines smarter than anyone else that has ever lived. All AI introduces is a much less constrained upper bound.
- imakesnowflakes 11y ago>All AI introduces is a much less constrained upper bound. Can you please explain?
- danieltillett 11y agoHuman intelligence is constrained by the genetic diversity within the human gene pool. AI has no such constraints and in theory is only constrained by the laws of physics.
- AnimalMuppet 11y agoThis assumes, however, that "intelligence" is something that scales reasonably well. Does it scale linearly with the number of transistors (or whatever replaces them)? Or as the log of it? Or worse than that?
- danieltillett 11y agoNo it doesn't. We really have no idea of the possible upper limit of AI intelligence other than physics, while with humans we actually have data on the upper limit. It could be that the maximum intelligence possible is limited by something other than physics, but at this stage we don't know. On this topic speculating on how greater intelligence will think and act is very hard. Even understanding how people at the very top level of human intelligence think is beyond most of us.