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I fucking.hated.flash websites. HATED. With a passion. Even when it was being done it was a stupid tech trick from jackass developers, it was never a designe

I fucking.hated.flash websites. HATED. With a passion. Even when it was being done it was a stupid tech trick from jackass developers, it was never a designer driven thing except as a means of doing layouts that were you couldn't do in html at the time. and it was NEVER about usability. I hated that trend and thank god it didn't last very long specifically BECAUSE it threw the users under the bus.

nekopa 11y ago
Honestly, as a website dev during the height of flash's dominance, I think you're a little off with your hatred. During this time, it was extremely rare to have a designer involved in website design (I can't prove it, but I think you'll see a correlation with the growth of template sites at the time, I broke my back trying to learn design and color theory at the time and I still can't even draw a straight line freehand :) so what I normally had to deal with was the client as designer. Complete nightmare... Here's one anecdotal data point: I was designing an eshop for a client. He demanded a long flash intro to the site. I tried to lead him through an idea- You want customers? Yes. You want repeat customers? Yes. You want them to have to wait 30 seconds every time they shop to watch your intro? Errr, yes! Ok..... So I snuck in a huge skip intro button on the flash intro... Call from client: 'hey, my buddies tell me that the intro is ruined by a big button saying 'skip intro'. Remove it now!!! It's degrading the experience!!!' I tried, but hey, I got paid, and his business suffered in the long run- and I mean went bankrupt... I know of few developers at the time who wanted to do flash intros. It was normally forced on them...
mattkevan 11y ago
Most Flash sites were pretty bad (the first site I made was Flash, and it was bad), but it was also used to create possibly the finest website ever made. http://superior-web-solutions.com/ http://superior-web-solutions.com/ Turn the sound up, and definitely do not skip the intro. It'll bring a tear to your eye.
- angelofm 11y ago
  I enable flash to watch this, I will never get back this 5 minutes of my life, DANGER DO NOT VISIT One thing is for sure, it brought a tear to my eye.
  - mattkevan 11y ago
    Oh come on, it's not that bad - it's not like it set fire to your computer or anything. It's just an amazing example of what you can do with Flash, and why you shouldn't.
- shultays 11y ago
  I can't be sure that if this is a joke or not
  - mattkevan 11y ago
    Not a joke. Here's an actual site they did: http://industrialpainter.com/ http://industrialpainter.com/

nekopa 11y ago

Honestly, as a website dev during the height of flash's dominance, I think you're a little off with your hatred. During this time, it was extremely rare to have a designer involved in website design (I can't prove it, but I think you'll see a correlation with the growth of template sites at the time, I broke my back trying to learn design and color theory at the time and I still can't even draw a straight line freehand :) so what I normally had to deal with was the client as designer. Complete nightmare... Here's one anecdotal data point: I was designing an eshop for a client. He demanded a long flash intro to the site. I tried to lead him through an idea- You want customers? Yes. You want repeat customers? Yes. You want them to have to wait 30 seconds every time they shop to watch your intro? Errr, yes! Ok..... So I snuck in a huge skip intro button on the flash intro... Call from client: 'hey, my buddies tell me that the intro is ruined by a big button saying 'skip intro'. Remove it now!!! It's degrading the experience!!!' I tried, but hey, I got paid, and his business suffered in the long run- and I mean went bankrupt... I know of few developers at the time who wanted to do flash intros. It was normally forced on them...

mattkevan 11y ago

Most Flash sites were pretty bad (the first site I made was Flash, and it was bad), but it was also used to create possibly the finest website ever made. http://superior-web-solutions.com/ http://superior-web-solutions.com/ Turn the sound up, and definitely do not skip the intro. It'll bring a tear to your eye.

angelofm 11y ago
I enable flash to watch this, I will never get back this 5 minutes of my life, DANGER DO NOT VISIT One thing is for sure, it brought a tear to my eye.
- mattkevan 11y ago
  Oh come on, it's not that bad - it's not like it set fire to your computer or anything. It's just an amazing example of what you can do with Flash, and why you shouldn't.
shultays 11y ago
I can't be sure that if this is a joke or not
- mattkevan 11y ago
  Not a joke. Here's an actual site they did: http://industrialpainter.com/ http://industrialpainter.com/