4 ms·
I mean, I agree with you that Stockholm isn't the greatest city in the world to live in, nor Oslo, but they're not exactly filled to the brim with human misery,
by deciplex 11y ago
I mean, I agree with you that Stockholm isn't the greatest city in the world to live in, nor Oslo, but they're not exactly filled to the brim with human misery, either.
- noarchy 11y agoThey're also not socialist, in the sense that the parent comment was (I think) hinting at. There's plenty of capitalism at work in both Sweden and Norway.
- rjblackman 11y agoyou are mixing up communism and socialism. socialism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. the scandinavian systems are called "nordic socialism" for a reason.
- icebraining 11y agoSocialism doesn't have an agreed-upon definition. For example, the World Socialist Movement will tell you that it entails an end to private property and to trades using money[1]. Whether the Nordic model is really socialist is a subject of intense debate among the Left (as usual). [1] http://www.worldsocialism.org/english/what-socialism http://www.worldsocialism.org/english/what-socialism
- rjblackman 11y agowell the USSR under Gorbachev were considering moving to it (the nordic model) so I guess that gives some creedence to it's "left-ness"
- icebraining 11y agoNot even Lenin's USSR was considered Socialist by everyone (see the State Capitalism critiques, particularly by the anarchists), let alone the USSR under Perestroika!
- brc 11y agoNorway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland are all capitalist countries with a high economic freedom index. That the voters choose to vote themselves high taxes for the purposes of high government spending is more a function of their culture than anything else.