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> We whined for years that X11/Xorg was really a non-optional piece of crap... Does the fact that sshd's X11 forwarding doesn't require to run an X11 -errm- cl

> We whined for years that X11/Xorg was really a non-optional piece of crap... Does the fact that sshd's X11 forwarding doesn't require to run an X11 -errm- client(?) to run X11 software on a remote machine make X11/Xorg more optional? (Obviously, you do need to run X11 on the machine that displays the GUI, and you do need X11 libs installed on the remote machine.)

toyg 11y ago
No, I was referring to the fact that there was basically no alternative graphics system in the mainstream. You could choose among different windows servers, desktop systems etc, but all of these would only run on top of X11/Xorg. Compatibility with other implementations both at protocol and interface levels was barely even nominal. Whenever X11/Xorg development stalled or hit problems etc, the entire desktop ecosystem was screwed, often for long periods. Now we're going to see this happen with basically the entire userland. If distributions keep pushing it, systemd is going to become "X11 for userland", regardless of its actual quality.