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>The whole discussion about it even led to some states abolishing the old system and introducing "Gesamtschulen mit gymnasialer Oberstufe", essentially, the US
by tsotha 11y ago
>The whole discussion about it even led to some states abolishing the old system and introducing "Gesamtschulen mit gymnasialer Oberstufe", essentially, the US middle/high-school system.
What a mistake. The German system may seem less "fair" to certain people, but at least it works. In the US we've somehow come to the conclusion we can build a society that consists only of highly educated professionals and somehow the toilets will fix themselves.
- Mithaldu 11y ago> What a mistake. Do note that he still has to substantiate this. I live in germany and i don't know of or can find any place that actually has done this abolishing.
- kuschku 11y ago*she And there is a lot of discussion about it, and people hate it. Schleswig-Holstein has currently forbidden Hauptschule and Realschule, and there were discussions about also remove Gymnasien, but that idea was quickly thrown away. Currently, in Kronshagen there is now an Integrierte Gesamtschule mit gymnasialer Oberstufe, which is already one of the first schools of the "one size fits all" kind.
- Mithaldu 11y agoSo there's one state, which hasn't abolished the old system, but merely merged the two shorter courses. Those are very different things, but thanks for clarifying that. Further, i asked for references because i have never seen any debates about any of this. So far: No links or explanations on where or how this is being discussed, only vague claims. I really recommend you reconsider whether you're seeing debate within the circles you move in, or actually generalized across the whole country.
- kuschku 11y agoWell, it’s a debate in my state – which is still a large debate. I obviously don’t know how it’s outside of HH / S-H, as these are the only states that I know did it, but Wikipedia says about 10 states did it.