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You're probably getting down-voted because you're not adding anything, though I'd argue it's really hard to add anything to the discussion. Curators of Sweden

by seivan 11y ago

You're probably getting down-voted because you're not adding anything, though I'd argue it's really hard to add anything to the discussion. Curators of Sweden are essentially hive-mind of the same types of people over and over except only at one point, we had a person who was liberal (not left-wing) and people shat their pants. Another thing to add is the most vile racist Swedes I've grown to meet are usually left-wing extreme (mainstream today) "anti-racists". You're approved as long as you agree with their narratives, until you don't and branded as an uncle Tom (though they use a different word that starts with house) and more often not also called "fascist". A perfect example of this actually happened today as a politician from Folkpartiet (The Liberal Party) got booed as she was talking on an event about supporting refugees. Her name is Birgitta Ohlsson and has fought a lot for LGBTs, refugees and to even open the borders. Swedes really watered down the word racist. Sorta like how everyone in Soviet was a fascist. Kinda funny how I've grown to tolerate the Swedish Democrats in comparison. Seeing people like Nalin Pekgul, Sakine Madon, Hanna Gadban, Sarah Mohammed and Alice Teodorescu being called racist pretty much did it for me.

johansch 11y ago
Sweden certainly is in the forefront of building a modern DDR. I guess we'll see a Swedish movie similar to that of "Das Leben der Anderen" in a decade or two. Just this week the largest daily newspaper (Dagens Nyheter) decided to out the identity of an anonymous high-profile blogger (a 70 year old woman) who was critical of the current immigration scheme. The main reason they did it was as a form of punishment. This was made clear in their reporting.
- seivan 11y ago
  Doesn't help that they refuse to expose the Stasi-archives.
- ninjin 11y ago
  High profile blogger, author, and former journalist. I can't say that I am giving this all too much of my attention, but I think that you are leaving out a few things. They did state that they outed her after she posted the name and phone number of two journalists claiming that they had been stalking her [1]. They also argued that the political influence wielded by the blogger rivalled that of an established journalist and that it justified publishing her name. Whether or not this really justifies publishing her name, well, that is a different matter entirely. Also, I am not sure if "critical of the current immigration scheme" is an appropriate label for someone that has stated that "Those that allow this to happen to Sweden should not have a single moment of peace. Those that with open eyes and at a steady pace are betraying our country. Those that not only allow but encourage and carry out the import of unidentified murderers, war criminals, and terrorists - thus making Swedes potential victims of murder, rape, and other violence." [2] (my translation). She has the right to express those opinions, but I think that "critical", in this case, may be an understatement and that she may deserve another label. [1]: http://www.svd.se/expressen-rojer-anonym-bloggare http://www.svd.se/expressen-rojer-anonym-bloggare (Swedish) [2]: http://www.expressen.se/kultur/hon-ar-julia-caesar/ http://www.expressen.se/kultur/hon-ar-julia-caesar/ (Swedish)
  - seivan 11y ago
    Biggest indicator of their lie would be that she put out their phone numbers. Their phone numbers were already public and usually posted when they wanted to be contacted. In fact, not just once, but several times. Lets not kid ourselves here that that she wasn't being silenced with a hit-job. The things they did against her would have been harassment against any other person. She's also somewhat right. Sweden let the gas-maker for Saddam stay [0], has yet to prosecute any of the returning ISIS rapists. Not to mention lied about the numbers. SÄPO said 100, but hospital records claims of over 300 - some has gone back again after som R&R.[1] She's right to be angry at the decision makers. I don't care about her opinion itself, but she's not wrong in terms of Sweden letting murderers, war criminals and terrorists come back. Last week it turns out someone responsible for Rwanda has been living in Sweden for 13 years without any issues.[2] He got prosecuted because they won't piss off any voters by doing so. I will personally never forgive Sweden and the people in charge betraying innocent lives abroad, for not pissing off certain groups of voting cattle here. [3] I stand with Caesar even though I don't agree with her as much as you'd like to think. You have to agree she was being silenced by the 'elite'. [0]: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jag-jobbade-at-saddam/ http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jag-jobbade-at-saddam/ (Swedish) [1]: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/vast/hundratals-svenskar-har-skadats-i-krig http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/vast/hundratals-svenskar... (Swedish) [2]: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/man-i-mellansverige-gripen-for-folkmord/ http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/man-i-mellansverige-gripen-f... (Swedish) [3]: http://www.thelocal.se/20140702/green-mp http://www.thelocal.se/20140702/green-mp
    - cb18 11y ago
      I will personally never forgive Sweden and the people in charge betraying innocent lives abroad The people just as betrayed or more so by the people making these decisions are these people's fellow Swedish countrymen. What these governments and people pushing this agenda of what I assume they believe is big-heartedness or something, but with a willful blindness to the consequences have done is just ghastly and absurd. There are frequent bombings in Malmö, often directed at Jews. The bombings appear to be spreading, just last month apparently, there was a blast in Billesholm in northern Skåne. https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/sweden-muslim-bomb-violence-spread-from-malmo-to-skane/ https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/sweden-musli... I'm fairly certain these things didn't occur say 30 years ago, much less frequently. Then also in the past 30 years, Sweden has skyrocketed up the charts to lead the world in rape and school arson attacks. Great job Swedish Government!
- johansch 11y ago
  Realize, this is a country where the largest newspapers (Dagens Nyheter, Expressen) feel no concerns about utilizing extreme left-wing people to perform hacks on websites in order to get data on their ideological enemies who they then expose using their newspapers and websites with near 100% national reach.
dogma1138 11y ago
Well Sweden is the answer to the question: "what tumblr would look like if it was a country?"
- johansch 11y ago
  Being in Sweden the past couple of days has been like living inside a parody. Ever since the image of that drowned boy whose father wanted to get to a richer part of Europe from a relative safe haven in Turkey, the newspapers here have been going insane, trying to top each other in terms of goodness. News are not reported any longer, only feelings.
  - seivan 11y ago
    They weren't in a safe haven. Lets not kid ourselves that Turkey is safe for kurds. I agree it's pointless emotion, when 400 000 people have already died by foreign islamic invaders and Assad. If they genuinely cared, these Swedes they would have tried to stop ISIS and/or Assad. But that doesn't generate votes only "anti-war" protests. Funny, no anti-war protests against Russia helping Assad. That's Swedes for you.
    - dogma1138 11y ago
      Ironically (or not. damn you Alanis) enough if you would make a protest against ISIS in Sweden these days you'll be branded as racist for telling other "cultures" how to behave...

by seivan 11y ago

johansch 11y ago

Sweden certainly is in the forefront of building a modern DDR. I guess we'll see a Swedish movie similar to that of "Das Leben der Anderen" in a decade or two. Just this week the largest daily newspaper (Dagens Nyheter) decided to out the identity of an anonymous high-profile blogger (a 70 year old woman) who was critical of the current immigration scheme. The main reason they did it was as a form of punishment. This was made clear in their reporting.

seivan 11y ago
Doesn't help that they refuse to expose the Stasi-archives.
ninjin 11y ago
High profile blogger, author, and former journalist. I can't say that I am giving this all too much of my attention, but I think that you are leaving out a few things. They did state that they outed her after she posted the name and phone number of two journalists claiming that they had been stalking her [1]. They also argued that the political influence wielded by the blogger rivalled that of an established journalist and that it justified publishing her name. Whether or not this really justifies publishing her name, well, that is a different matter entirely. Also, I am not sure if "critical of the current immigration scheme" is an appropriate label for someone that has stated that "Those that allow this to happen to Sweden should not have a single moment of peace. Those that with open eyes and at a steady pace are betraying our country. Those that not only allow but encourage and carry out the import of unidentified murderers, war criminals, and terrorists - thus making Swedes potential victims of murder, rape, and other violence." [2] (my translation). She has the right to express those opinions, but I think that "critical", in this case, may be an understatement and that she may deserve another label. [1]: http://www.svd.se/expressen-rojer-anonym-bloggare http://www.svd.se/expressen-rojer-anonym-bloggare (Swedish) [2]: http://www.expressen.se/kultur/hon-ar-julia-caesar/ http://www.expressen.se/kultur/hon-ar-julia-caesar/ (Swedish)
- seivan 11y ago
  Biggest indicator of their lie would be that she put out their phone numbers. Their phone numbers were already public and usually posted when they wanted to be contacted. In fact, not just once, but several times. Lets not kid ourselves here that that she wasn't being silenced with a hit-job. The things they did against her would have been harassment against any other person. She's also somewhat right. Sweden let the gas-maker for Saddam stay [0], has yet to prosecute any of the returning ISIS rapists. Not to mention lied about the numbers. SÄPO said 100, but hospital records claims of over 300 - some has gone back again after som R&R.[1] She's right to be angry at the decision makers. I don't care about her opinion itself, but she's not wrong in terms of Sweden letting murderers, war criminals and terrorists come back. Last week it turns out someone responsible for Rwanda has been living in Sweden for 13 years without any issues.[2] He got prosecuted because they won't piss off any voters by doing so. I will personally never forgive Sweden and the people in charge betraying innocent lives abroad, for not pissing off certain groups of voting cattle here. [3] I stand with Caesar even though I don't agree with her as much as you'd like to think. You have to agree she was being silenced by the 'elite'. [0]: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jag-jobbade-at-saddam/ http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/jag-jobbade-at-saddam/ (Swedish) [1]: http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/vast/hundratals-svenskar-har-skadats-i-krig http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/vast/hundratals-svenskar... (Swedish) [2]: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/man-i-mellansverige-gripen-for-folkmord/ http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/man-i-mellansverige-gripen-f... (Swedish) [3]: http://www.thelocal.se/20140702/green-mp http://www.thelocal.se/20140702/green-mp
  - cb18 11y ago
    I will personally never forgive Sweden and the people in charge betraying innocent lives abroad The people just as betrayed or more so by the people making these decisions are these people's fellow Swedish countrymen. What these governments and people pushing this agenda of what I assume they believe is big-heartedness or something, but with a willful blindness to the consequences have done is just ghastly and absurd. There are frequent bombings in Malmö, often directed at Jews. The bombings appear to be spreading, just last month apparently, there was a blast in Billesholm in northern Skåne. https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/sweden-muslim-bomb-violence-spread-from-malmo-to-skane/ https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/sweden-musli... I'm fairly certain these things didn't occur say 30 years ago, much less frequently. Then also in the past 30 years, Sweden has skyrocketed up the charts to lead the world in rape and school arson attacks. Great job Swedish Government!
johansch 11y ago
Realize, this is a country where the largest newspapers (Dagens Nyheter, Expressen) feel no concerns about utilizing extreme left-wing people to perform hacks on websites in order to get data on their ideological enemies who they then expose using their newspapers and websites with near 100% national reach.

dogma1138 11y ago

Well Sweden is the answer to the question: "what tumblr would look like if it was a country?"

johansch 11y ago
Being in Sweden the past couple of days has been like living inside a parody. Ever since the image of that drowned boy whose father wanted to get to a richer part of Europe from a relative safe haven in Turkey, the newspapers here have been going insane, trying to top each other in terms of goodness. News are not reported any longer, only feelings.
- seivan 11y ago
  They weren't in a safe haven. Lets not kid ourselves that Turkey is safe for kurds. I agree it's pointless emotion, when 400 000 people have already died by foreign islamic invaders and Assad. If they genuinely cared, these Swedes they would have tried to stop ISIS and/or Assad. But that doesn't generate votes only "anti-war" protests. Funny, no anti-war protests against Russia helping Assad. That's Swedes for you.
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Ironically (or not. damn you Alanis) enough if you would make a protest against ISIS in Sweden these days you'll be branded as racist for telling other "cultures" how to behave...