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For my > The police stopped the car because the driver failed to use a turn signal? I was too brief: If the police stop someone for a turn signal violation,
by graycat 11y ago
For my
> The police stopped the car because
the driver failed to use a turn signal?
I was too brief: If the police stop
someone for a turn signal violation,
okay, charge them with the turn signal
violation. But if charge the person with,
say, some more serious crime, then have
to suspect that the turn signal issue
was false and just used as a means
of unconstitutional unreasonable search.
My experience is that a good way to
suffer an unconstitutional search
from, say, a turn signal violation
is just to drive an old car in
a poor neighborhood, or really,
any neighborhood, late at night,
etc. Police just like to stop
and search cars, for any reason
or no reason, and will use any
excuse as a way to do that.
In my case, after the stop,
I'm articulate, calm,
mature, and get away with it.
But still I get stopped due to
the violation of driving with
an old car.
For my
> A police officer killed
an unarmed person? Deliberate,
unprovoked, unexcusable murder.
Life or the chair.
The burden of proof would have to
be strongly on the side of the police
to prove that they had no alternative
to being seriously injured or killed
themselves. For the police to say
"I felt that
my life was threatened" is not nearly
enough.
In such a confrontation with an unarmed
person, the police have enormous advantages
in force -- radios, backup, cameras to
identify the person in case they run,
clubs, guns, bullet
proof vests, etc. For a person to
die looks really bad.
We've had at least one recent case
where the person was running away,
was over 10 feet away, and the police
shot them in the back and killed them
just to keep them from running away.
At present, apparently the real standard
is that a person has to obey every
command of an officer, be pleasant,
object to nothing, defend themselves
against nothing, hand over money
and personal belongings that
they may never get back, not make
a recording, not call 911, permit any
search, accept painful restraints,
not try to run away, be verbally
insulted, be sexually molested,
etc. or the officer can just shoot
and kill the person and get away with it.
One response I have would be what
I would do on jury duty. But, right,
likely a public prosecutor would never
let me on a jury.
Another alternative is to have my
startup work, get rich, be careful,
and set up some funding for
some essentially sting operations
to catch police misbehaving, where
there was overwhelming evidence from
hidden cameras and microphones,
long distance cameras, etc. that
the police did something wrong.
Then have the legal resources
to prosecute the police. Use
such actions as examples, and then
try to get some better behavior
from the police. E.g., civil
forfeiture, that is, the crime
of carrying too much cash,
that is, legalized highway robbery.
I can't feel guilty for sticking up
for our Constitution.
- clarkmoody 11y ago> unconstitutional unreasonable search. Absolutely. We need a serious amount of education on how to interact with the police, to know when the encounter is over ("Am I free to go?"), to know exactly how much you are required to say and not say a word more, etc. From what I've seen, the police prey upon people's ignorance in order to score more convictions, tickets, and seizures. >officer can just shoot and kill the person and get away with it. Unfortunately this does happen, but in a few recent cases the officer has been arrested and charged with murder. > E.g., civil forfeiture, that is, the crime of carrying too much cash, that is, legalized highway robbery. I'm in the Bitcoin industry, so this rings true to me ;-)