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That's intriguing to me. I love my Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (the successor to the Note 8). S-Note has improved a lot since the Note 8 came out, you can now cut & past

That's intriguing to me. I love my Galaxy Tab A 8.0 (the successor to the Note 8). S-Note has improved a lot since the Note 8 came out, you can now cut & paste and resize parts of your drawing. I think the screen is larger as well (it's now a 4:3 ratio, not the 16:10 of the Note 8). I've never tried Windows Journal though, so I'm not sure which features I'm missing out on. S-Note could definitely be improved more.

ant6n 11y ago
In journal drawings, are vectors: you can zoom in a lot, you can copy paste/resize them, you can erase individual strokes completely by tapping one part of them (if you set the eraser to vector). In journal you can specify your own background; I like little squares to draw and take notes rather than college-book style lines. In S-Note they pre-defined a few paper templates, and the only thing that comes close ('idea notes' or something) uses a beige back-ground, which looks ugly when putting on a webpage. Thus I use an imagemagick script to fix those (cumbersome). Journal makes it a bit easier to manage notes, they live in a proper file system; pages within notes are easier to manage (that page-management sub-tool in S-note is very cumbersome). Journal allows searching in notes based on text recognition, per file or per folder. I found exporting easier with journal, but that may just be because you are on a proper operating system where you can copy and paste quickly; on the Note the normal modus operandi for copying seems to be to 'lasso' stuff, which you can't put on a website nicely (images are rectangles, not hand-lassoed loops). Is there a way to update S-Note? (If not, that could be sort of another complaint: lack of updates)
- SyneRyder 11y ago
  Sounds like the new S-Note has addressed some of your concerns. Strokes are vectors, and you can resize/ move individual strokes. You can zoom in & out of the page too. You can change the notes background, including to backgrounds saved in your own image library. So you could create your own forms to fill in, but there's no guidance on how to design those background images. They're now a mix of Paper (background color/texture) and Pattern (eg repeating lines for writing on, or grids / dots for graph papers). S-Note files are also in Android's file explorer, but I don't know of any program that can open them. You can export to PDF. Text searching is via Evernote, and I'm not sure its handwriting recognition is reliable with S-Note. Page management is still a pain. There's an option to convert your lasso into a square now & save it to your Scrapbook, but it isn't as easy as a crop tool. I don't think there's a way to update S-Note, unless Samsung updates the whole tablet (ie to Android 5). Frustrating! The new S-Note would make your Note 8 much more powerful if there's a way to hack it onto there.
  - ant6n 11y ago
    Thanks for the useful hints, I'll try to check it out. Maybe I'll just upgrade the device itself; the form factor seems more useful (although software upgrades will always be an issue...) Actually I couldn't find the new galaxy tab in 8" with the pen, only the 10" is available with pen on Amazon. Is the text searching possible among multiple notes (e.g. a folder, or multiple folders?)
    - ant6n 11y ago
      Actually it was possible to install the new S-Note via the Galaxy App store (Samsung's eco-system layer on top of Android.. ugh). The new S-Note is indeed better, I appreciate the copy/paste/resize features. Gotta make a graph paper template (cumbersome). So thanks for the hint! It's still not as good as the more than ten-year-old journal. One can zoom to only 200%. And the drawing is pretty laggy (if you draw slowly at max zoom, it updates like 2 times per second). Laggy drawing makes good penmanship very hard, and drawing accurately painful and slow. It's also odd that the app overrides the screen brightness to full, and there doesn't seem to be a way to stop it from doing so.

ant6n 11y ago

In journal drawings, are vectors: you can zoom in a lot, you can copy paste/resize them, you can erase individual strokes completely by tapping one part of them (if you set the eraser to vector). In journal you can specify your own background; I like little squares to draw and take notes rather than college-book style lines. In S-Note they pre-defined a few paper templates, and the only thing that comes close ('idea notes' or something) uses a beige back-ground, which looks ugly when putting on a webpage. Thus I use an imagemagick script to fix those (cumbersome). Journal makes it a bit easier to manage notes, they live in a proper file system; pages within notes are easier to manage (that page-management sub-tool in S-note is very cumbersome). Journal allows searching in notes based on text recognition, per file or per folder. I found exporting easier with journal, but that may just be because you are on a proper operating system where you can copy and paste quickly; on the Note the normal modus operandi for copying seems to be to 'lasso' stuff, which you can't put on a website nicely (images are rectangles, not hand-lassoed loops). Is there a way to update S-Note? (If not, that could be sort of another complaint: lack of updates)

SyneRyder 11y ago
Sounds like the new S-Note has addressed some of your concerns. Strokes are vectors, and you can resize/ move individual strokes. You can zoom in & out of the page too. You can change the notes background, including to backgrounds saved in your own image library. So you could create your own forms to fill in, but there's no guidance on how to design those background images. They're now a mix of Paper (background color/texture) and Pattern (eg repeating lines for writing on, or grids / dots for graph papers). S-Note files are also in Android's file explorer, but I don't know of any program that can open them. You can export to PDF. Text searching is via Evernote, and I'm not sure its handwriting recognition is reliable with S-Note. Page management is still a pain. There's an option to convert your lasso into a square now & save it to your Scrapbook, but it isn't as easy as a crop tool. I don't think there's a way to update S-Note, unless Samsung updates the whole tablet (ie to Android 5). Frustrating! The new S-Note would make your Note 8 much more powerful if there's a way to hack it onto there.
- ant6n 11y ago
  Thanks for the useful hints, I'll try to check it out. Maybe I'll just upgrade the device itself; the form factor seems more useful (although software upgrades will always be an issue...) Actually I couldn't find the new galaxy tab in 8" with the pen, only the 10" is available with pen on Amazon. Is the text searching possible among multiple notes (e.g. a folder, or multiple folders?)
  - ant6n 11y ago
    Actually it was possible to install the new S-Note via the Galaxy App store (Samsung's eco-system layer on top of Android.. ugh). The new S-Note is indeed better, I appreciate the copy/paste/resize features. Gotta make a graph paper template (cumbersome). So thanks for the hint! It's still not as good as the more than ten-year-old journal. One can zoom to only 200%. And the drawing is pretty laggy (if you draw slowly at max zoom, it updates like 2 times per second). Laggy drawing makes good penmanship very hard, and drawing accurately painful and slow. It's also odd that the app overrides the screen brightness to full, and there doesn't seem to be a way to stop it from doing so.