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I just bought this for fun from the appstore in order to support you guys. Maybe I'm missing something but there is no menubar item to show you a small represen

I just bought this for fun from the appstore in order to support you guys. Maybe I'm missing something but there is no menubar item to show you a small representation of how much of the tree has left to grow. I would also like to ask you what windowless mode is supposed to do exactly?

binaryapparatus 11y ago
Hi ApolloRising. We don't have menu bar item by design but it is easy to add if there is good reason to have one. We wanted to avoid people checking menu bar instead of working -- preferred way is to hide controls during work phase and get 'fuzzy' idea of time left by checking at tree growth. Windowless mode is turned on in Preferences -> General -> Use transparent window. That way you can leave tree somewhere so it looks as part of the desktop (depends a lot on your wallpaper). I personally use windowless mode, move controls up, then stick a tree on second monitor, few pixels below the bottom so it looks like it is growing from the bottom edge of the screen. Please let us know more using contact form on our site. Edit: Many thanks for your support of course :)
- ApolloRising 11y ago
  Not sure if it is because I am running 10.9 (latest) or that I am using multiple monitors but there may be a bug in windowless mode since once I check the box it vanishes and is not available on any of the 2 monitors I am using. (Macbook pro 2014 retina). If you want I can send you a few screenshots to illustrate.
  - binaryapparatus 11y ago
    Please do contact us if this does not help: When you switch from or to windowless mode app window does not change position at all, it only becomes transparent or not. Zen Timer uses normal window so it has to be visible in Mission Control. As a last resort, you can use 'Center and Reset Position' menu option that can be found in Window menu when Zen Timer has the focus.
mangeletti 11y ago
+1 I almost just bought this when I realized, "Wait, where will this thing be the whole time the tree is growing?". A menu option or something would be good for me, since I have 3-4 apps (Firefox, Sublime Text 3, Terminal, and iTunes) in full screen mode all day and I don't want a fractal tree growing in a full screen app or on my left-most desktop. BTW (related to a comment below), the music is one of the reasons I almost bought the app. For me, that kind of music wins every time. It made the whole experience more awe inspiring and mystical (or something), which identified with the kinds of things I tend to like in this context.
- binaryapparatus 11y ago
  Hi mangeletti. Colleague of mine uses single crowded monitor, similar to what you are doing. He leaves Zen Timer in the background, occasionally glancing at tree growth to get an idea about time left. I prefer two monitors of course. Both are valid ways to use the app. It is ten minute job (plus MAS review time) to make menu bar timer but that didn't seem as 'zen' to us. However let's discuss that (if you want use contact form on our site), it is easy to add on/off option for that.
  - mangeletti 11y ago
    Shoot! I actually just went to buy it (you had me sold with your quick reply) and found that it requires 10.9+ :( I'm on Mountain Lion with both of my MacBook Pros. I won't be upgrading until I sell these and buy a new one (which will be at least a couple months - waiting for El Capitan, as I've heard too many nightmare stories about Yosemite). In the meantime, your eagerness to connect (e.g., via HN this morning) with your customers is going to help you greatly. I'd definitely add the menu option, if it's easy, but make sure it's polished and looks great on a Retina model (Mac users have grown accustomed to helpful menu items on apps like this).
    - binaryapparatus 11y ago
      Thanks for your kind words. Sorry to hear that you can't try it out immediately. Among other things it was an exercise in writing Swift code and Swift requires 10.9 as minimum. We would like to support few older OS versions but Apple says no.

binaryapparatus 11y ago

Hi ApolloRising. We don't have menu bar item by design but it is easy to add if there is good reason to have one. We wanted to avoid people checking menu bar instead of working -- preferred way is to hide controls during work phase and get 'fuzzy' idea of time left by checking at tree growth. Windowless mode is turned on in Preferences -> General -> Use transparent window. That way you can leave tree somewhere so it looks as part of the desktop (depends a lot on your wallpaper). I personally use windowless mode, move controls up, then stick a tree on second monitor, few pixels below the bottom so it looks like it is growing from the bottom edge of the screen. Please let us know more using contact form on our site. Edit: Many thanks for your support of course :)

ApolloRising 11y ago
Not sure if it is because I am running 10.9 (latest) or that I am using multiple monitors but there may be a bug in windowless mode since once I check the box it vanishes and is not available on any of the 2 monitors I am using. (Macbook pro 2014 retina). If you want I can send you a few screenshots to illustrate.
- binaryapparatus 11y ago
  Please do contact us if this does not help: When you switch from or to windowless mode app window does not change position at all, it only becomes transparent or not. Zen Timer uses normal window so it has to be visible in Mission Control. As a last resort, you can use 'Center and Reset Position' menu option that can be found in Window menu when Zen Timer has the focus.

mangeletti 11y ago

+1 I almost just bought this when I realized, "Wait, where will this thing be the whole time the tree is growing?". A menu option or something would be good for me, since I have 3-4 apps (Firefox, Sublime Text 3, Terminal, and iTunes) in full screen mode all day and I don't want a fractal tree growing in a full screen app or on my left-most desktop. BTW (related to a comment below), the music is one of the reasons I almost bought the app. For me, that kind of music wins every time. It made the whole experience more awe inspiring and mystical (or something), which identified with the kinds of things I tend to like in this context.

binaryapparatus 11y ago
Hi mangeletti. Colleague of mine uses single crowded monitor, similar to what you are doing. He leaves Zen Timer in the background, occasionally glancing at tree growth to get an idea about time left. I prefer two monitors of course. Both are valid ways to use the app. It is ten minute job (plus MAS review time) to make menu bar timer but that didn't seem as 'zen' to us. However let's discuss that (if you want use contact form on our site), it is easy to add on/off option for that.
- mangeletti 11y ago
  Shoot! I actually just went to buy it (you had me sold with your quick reply) and found that it requires 10.9+ :( I'm on Mountain Lion with both of my MacBook Pros. I won't be upgrading until I sell these and buy a new one (which will be at least a couple months - waiting for El Capitan, as I've heard too many nightmare stories about Yosemite). In the meantime, your eagerness to connect (e.g., via HN this morning) with your customers is going to help you greatly. I'd definitely add the menu option, if it's easy, but make sure it's polished and looks great on a Retina model (Mac users have grown accustomed to helpful menu items on apps like this).
  - binaryapparatus 11y ago
    Thanks for your kind words. Sorry to hear that you can't try it out immediately. Among other things it was an exercise in writing Swift code and Swift requires 10.9 as minimum. We would like to support few older OS versions but Apple says no.