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Has there ever been a case where a country received too many refugees and its economy deteriorated as a consequence? People provide labor which is what causes e

Has there ever been a case where a country received too many refugees and its economy deteriorated as a consequence? People provide labor which is what causes economic growth. They're the most valuable thing a country can have if it's not flooded with oil or similar natural resources. Of course there may be a lag as skills don't match demand, but that'll close up over time.

1337biz 11y ago
Some people would probably point at the fall of the Roman Empire as the most classic example of culture conflicts leading to deterioration. http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome...
babuskov 11y ago
Yes. During the recent civil wars in Balkans, Serbia received many refugees from ex-Yugoslavian republics at war and it had huge impact on the economy as unemployment and criminal rates rose significantly. It took about 17-18 years for economy to recover to pre-war years.
cabalamat 11y ago
> Has there ever been a case where a country received too many refugees and its economy deteriorated as a consequence? One possible example is when the Roman Empire let in a load of Goths in 376.
marincounty 11y ago
"Has there ever been a case where a country received too many refugees and its economy deteriorated as a consequence? People provide labor which is what causes economic growth." I'll get hammered for this, but it depends on the country? I probally shouldn't comment because I'll be labeled a racist? Right now Canada is offering certain refuges $8000 to leave. I don't think they are being mean? They are just concerned about the long term consequences? Or, they are racists? See--there's just no way to discuss it? I see the way the good liberal people of San Francisco step over the Homeless, constantly complain, harass, and arrest these poor people; what would that liberal city do with thousands of broke refugees arriving daily, all using the Starbuck's restrooms, and sleeping in Golden Gate Park? Those rich Arab countries should be doing what Jordan is doing? Then again, their economies are horrid, and have huge unemployment rates. (horrid for the average citizen)
leaveyou 11y ago
The high unemployment rate in EU seems to indicate no real need of labor. Quite the opposite. The constant pressure to reduce welfare and unemployment benefits spending indicates no availability to take in more medium term benefit receivers. The new immigrants coming from Africa and other less sophisticated economies are way less likely to find jobs in a EU economy which is more and more automated and high tech.
omonra 11y ago
I think the bar 'economy deteriorated' is a high one. The issue rather is failure of migrants to integrate (probably fault of both host nation & migrants themselves) - thus creating ghettos / high crime rate / risk of terrorism. This is what seems to be happening - for example in France (banlieues, 70% of prison population is muslim, Charlie Hebbo).
tokenadult 11y ago
This is a very good point. Hong Kong thrived by receiving refugees from the Cultural Revolution in neighboring China. The United States thrived by receiving Jewish refugees from pogroms in the Tsarist Russian empire. In general, receiving refugees and allowing them to settle to become neighbors and business partners of the earlier-arrived population is a very good idea for any territory.
informatimago 11y ago
The economy of your house is striving but I'm sure it could be improved. What about we bring 10 immigrants in your very own house. Now the household income will be multiplied by five. You can't say its economy deteriorated as a consequence. If one of the immigrants, being of a different culture, see no problem in killing your child, another in raping your wife, and if you feel it's too crowed so you have to leave your house to get some sleep in the woods, I'm sure you can still say that it was the most valuable thing your house could have. Clearly you are under-exploiting the resources your house has to provide, wasting space, shelter and energy. Sure, ten immigrants will only bring five times the economic income you would, but with time, they'll close up! Fucking idiot! In the mean time your wife has been raped your children killed, and you're dying frozen in the woods!

1337biz 11y ago

Some people would probably point at the fall of the Roman Empire as the most classic example of culture conflicts leading to deterioration. http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome...

babuskov 11y ago

Yes. During the recent civil wars in Balkans, Serbia received many refugees from ex-Yugoslavian republics at war and it had huge impact on the economy as unemployment and criminal rates rose significantly. It took about 17-18 years for economy to recover to pre-war years.

cabalamat 11y ago

> Has there ever been a case where a country received too many refugees and its economy deteriorated as a consequence? One possible example is when the Roman Empire let in a load of Goths in 376.

marincounty 11y ago

"Has there ever been a case where a country received too many refugees and its economy deteriorated as a consequence? People provide labor which is what causes economic growth." I'll get hammered for this, but it depends on the country? I probally shouldn't comment because I'll be labeled a racist? Right now Canada is offering certain refuges $8000 to leave. I don't think they are being mean? They are just concerned about the long term consequences? Or, they are racists? See--there's just no way to discuss it? I see the way the good liberal people of San Francisco step over the Homeless, constantly complain, harass, and arrest these poor people; what would that liberal city do with thousands of broke refugees arriving daily, all using the Starbuck's restrooms, and sleeping in Golden Gate Park? Those rich Arab countries should be doing what Jordan is doing? Then again, their economies are horrid, and have huge unemployment rates. (horrid for the average citizen)

leaveyou 11y ago

The high unemployment rate in EU seems to indicate no real need of labor. Quite the opposite. The constant pressure to reduce welfare and unemployment benefits spending indicates no availability to take in more medium term benefit receivers. The new immigrants coming from Africa and other less sophisticated economies are way less likely to find jobs in a EU economy which is more and more automated and high tech.

omonra 11y ago

I think the bar 'economy deteriorated' is a high one. The issue rather is failure of migrants to integrate (probably fault of both host nation & migrants themselves) - thus creating ghettos / high crime rate / risk of terrorism. This is what seems to be happening - for example in France (banlieues, 70% of prison population is muslim, Charlie Hebbo).

tokenadult 11y ago

This is a very good point. Hong Kong thrived by receiving refugees from the Cultural Revolution in neighboring China. The United States thrived by receiving Jewish refugees from pogroms in the Tsarist Russian empire. In general, receiving refugees and allowing them to settle to become neighbors and business partners of the earlier-arrived population is a very good idea for any territory.

informatimago 11y ago

The economy of your house is striving but I'm sure it could be improved. What about we bring 10 immigrants in your very own house. Now the household income will be multiplied by five. You can't say its economy deteriorated as a consequence. If one of the immigrants, being of a different culture, see no problem in killing your child, another in raping your wife, and if you feel it's too crowed so you have to leave your house to get some sleep in the woods, I'm sure you can still say that it was the most valuable thing your house could have. Clearly you are under-exploiting the resources your house has to provide, wasting space, shelter and energy. Sure, ten immigrants will only bring five times the economic income you would, but with time, they'll close up! Fucking idiot! In the mean time your wife has been raped your children killed, and you're dying frozen in the woods!