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The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA. It really hurts to read this kind of drive

by moe 11y ago

The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA. It really hurts to read this kind of drivel on HN. This is not how the press works. "The press" is not an uniform entity. This is not how any of this works. Please take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.

chvid 11y ago
"The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA." That is probably true but I don't understand how the recent pictures of a Syrian child washing ashore could be a part of a "coordinated release"?
- leaveyou 11y ago
  It looks quite coordinated because the same press was raging against eastern european immigrants, workers and gypsies for years before and accused them of parasitism and now in one, two months, with appeal to emotions, the new immigrants which have way higher chances of being hard to assimilate and drain some budgets are portrayed in rather a positive light. The father who recklessly took his family from the relative safety of Turkey to death on an overcrowded boat for the elusive european mirage is portrayed as innocent victim..
vixen99 11y ago
That the EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA' is simply a truism. Policy emerges from Brussels and is widely reported across the media in Europe and the US. Certainly the EU is heading for political and economic union and to that extent its report of itself is a conspiracy if you want to call it that but it doesn't really meet the definition. Curious to know why it hurts! Btw stuff that arrives on HN that isn't appreciated is normally simply ignored. That's democratic choice; offering directives is a tad authoritarian, is it not?
- moe 11y ago
  Curious to know why it hurts! It hurts because the claim of conformist media (german: "gleichgeschaltete Medien") is a standard neonazi narrative of the dumbest kind. There is no "coordinated media spin across the EU" because the EU is a conglomerate of 28 nation states, many of which are in strong disagreement about which kind of media spin they would prefer for the current situation. Look at the mainstream media in Germany, Austria and Hungary and you'll see very different spins and emphasis. The internet makes this very easy to do, there really is no excuse for naive conspiracy theories anymore. That's democratic choice; offering directives is a tad authoritarian, is it not? My tolerance towards stupidity ends when it is directed against people who can't defend themselves. In case you missed whose horn generic_user is tooting then I suggest to take a brief glance at his comment history.
generic_user 11y ago
You should do some more research. It would be irresponsible if the EU did not have a large media apparatus. The reporting has been mixed. Some of it is overt and some covert such as direct funding for EU messaging campaigns concerning democratic referendums and so forth. 'Conspiracy Theory' is a bit of red herring in post Snowden age. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/02/the-millions-in-eu-funding-the-bbc-tried-to-hide/ http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/02/the-m...
dogma1138 11y ago
Actually kinda does, the cartels that formed in the late 19th early 20th century are still around, you only have a handful of large news agencies in the world which produce most of wire news. The Reuters-HAVAS-Wolf EU cartel is still alive and kicking even tho that Wolf's agency was swallowed by the Nazi party in the 30's. Benito Mussolini's Agenzia Stefani is still alive and well as Agenzia Nazionale Stampa Associata (ANSA) which is one of the lading news agencies in the world. If you look at the big agencies, Reuters HAVAS(AFP), and AP you'll see that they produce the vast majority of news reports that you read today, through their partners and subsidiaries they also own/represent/control/influence/hold hands/what ever with most small scale news agencies in the world including a fair deal of national ones. Will the BBC do some investigative reporting? yes it will, but the majority of the news that the BBC reports comes from the wire they'll might add some facts to it and some flare but they report it as it is, including in the same way it came through the wire so if there was already an opinion or a tone impressed on it it will be reported as such. This isn't some conspiracy theory this is reality, it doesn't mean that there's a cabal out there that wants to control everyone with old white men sitting in dark rooms smoking cigars, but it also means that even unintentional influence on the nature of a story gets amplified since that story will be reported 10000 times over, this gets aggravated even more considering that the big news agencies rely almost completely on local resources now so whether it's Gaza, Syria, Ukraine, or DC you'll get local reporters producing news with all the bias which is involved in it that will then be distributed to 10,000's of news outlets in the world and reported as recieved.
informatimago 11y ago
You really need to study the question. For example, in France, the medias are owned mainly my weapon manufaturers: EADS, Dassault, Rothschild, Bouygues and Alstom. https://mondeenquestion.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/la-mainmise-de-lindustrie-de-larmement-sur-la-presse-et-ledition/ https://mondeenquestion.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/la-mainmise... In other countries, it's similar: the press is owned by oligarchs who have big interests in having wars all over the place. Who makes the most money out of the war in Syria? Who has interest in having the fighting going on there (and therefore the need to buy weapons and munitions, with GOLD! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/14/isis-gold-silver-copper-islamic-dinar-coins http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/14/isis-gold-silve...

by moe 11y ago

chvid 11y ago

"The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA." That is probably true but I don't understand how the recent pictures of a Syrian child washing ashore could be a part of a "coordinated release"?

leaveyou 11y ago
It looks quite coordinated because the same press was raging against eastern european immigrants, workers and gypsies for years before and accused them of parasitism and now in one, two months, with appeal to emotions, the new immigrants which have way higher chances of being hard to assimilate and drain some budgets are portrayed in rather a positive light. The father who recklessly took his family from the relative safety of Turkey to death on an overcrowded boat for the elusive european mirage is portrayed as innocent victim..

vixen99 11y ago

That the EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA' is simply a truism. Policy emerges from Brussels and is widely reported across the media in Europe and the US. Certainly the EU is heading for political and economic union and to that extent its report of itself is a conspiracy if you want to call it that but it doesn't really meet the definition. Curious to know why it hurts! Btw stuff that arrives on HN that isn't appreciated is normally simply ignored. That's democratic choice; offering directives is a tad authoritarian, is it not?

moe 11y ago
Curious to know why it hurts! It hurts because the claim of conformist media (german: "gleichgeschaltete Medien") is a standard neonazi narrative of the dumbest kind. There is no "coordinated media spin across the EU" because the EU is a conglomerate of 28 nation states, many of which are in strong disagreement about which kind of media spin they would prefer for the current situation. Look at the mainstream media in Germany, Austria and Hungary and you'll see very different spins and emphasis. The internet makes this very easy to do, there really is no excuse for naive conspiracy theories anymore. That's democratic choice; offering directives is a tad authoritarian, is it not? My tolerance towards stupidity ends when it is directed against people who can't defend themselves. In case you missed whose horn generic_user is tooting then I suggest to take a brief glance at his comment history.

generic_user 11y ago

You should do some more research. It would be irresponsible if the EU did not have a large media apparatus. The reporting has been mixed. Some of it is overt and some covert such as direct funding for EU messaging campaigns concerning democratic referendums and so forth. 'Conspiracy Theory' is a bit of red herring in post Snowden age. http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/02/the-millions-in-eu-funding-the-bbc-tried-to-hide/ http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2014/02/the-m...

dogma1138 11y ago

Actually kinda does, the cartels that formed in the late 19th early 20th century are still around, you only have a handful of large news agencies in the world which produce most of wire news. The Reuters-HAVAS-Wolf EU cartel is still alive and kicking even tho that Wolf's agency was swallowed by the Nazi party in the 30's. Benito Mussolini's Agenzia Stefani is still alive and well as Agenzia Nazionale Stampa Associata (ANSA) which is one of the lading news agencies in the world. If you look at the big agencies, Reuters HAVAS(AFP), and AP you'll see that they produce the vast majority of news reports that you read today, through their partners and subsidiaries they also own/represent/control/influence/hold hands/what ever with most small scale news agencies in the world including a fair deal of national ones. Will the BBC do some investigative reporting? yes it will, but the majority of the news that the BBC reports comes from the wire they'll might add some facts to it and some flare but they report it as it is, including in the same way it came through the wire so if there was already an opinion or a tone impressed on it it will be reported as such. This isn't some conspiracy theory this is reality, it doesn't mean that there's a cabal out there that wants to control everyone with old white men sitting in dark rooms smoking cigars, but it also means that even unintentional influence on the nature of a story gets amplified since that story will be reported 10000 times over, this gets aggravated even more considering that the big news agencies rely almost completely on local resources now so whether it's Gaza, Syria, Ukraine, or DC you'll get local reporters producing news with all the bias which is involved in it that will then be distributed to 10,000's of news outlets in the world and reported as recieved.

informatimago 11y ago

You really need to study the question. For example, in France, the medias are owned mainly my weapon manufaturers: EADS, Dassault, Rothschild, Bouygues and Alstom. https://mondeenquestion.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/la-mainmise-de-lindustrie-de-larmement-sur-la-presse-et-ledition/ https://mondeenquestion.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/la-mainmise... In other countries, it's similar: the press is owned by oligarchs who have big interests in having wars all over the place. Who makes the most money out of the war in Syria? Who has interest in having the fighting going on there (and therefore the need to buy weapons and munitions, with GOLD! http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/14/isis-gold-silver-copper-islamic-dinar-coins http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/14/isis-gold-silve...