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http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html We'll, I'm not sure we should be spending $12B on higher educat

by eggnet 17y ago

http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/Enacted/agencies.html We'll, I'm not sure we should be spending $12B on higher education. Let's convert that to freely available online courses. If people want the full in-person college experience, then maybe they should pay for it themselves? We aren't getting our money's worth out of the $4.6B for the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive line item. $32B for Health and Human Services is full of charges to cover illegal aliens that the Fed can't (or won't) keep out of the country, but California has to (or chooses to?) cover the bill. We can't afford it. Tort reform would help too, if there is anything California can do on its own about that, I'm not sure. And finally, I'm certain every other line item not mentioned has the usual government overhead, most of which could be privatized to save more money or simply cut to a certain extent.

Anechoic 17y ago
We'll, I'm not sure we should be spending $12B on higher education. Let's convert that to freely available online courses. If people want the full in-person college experience, then maybe they should pay for it themselves? Isn't that a bit simplistic? Sure, one might make the argument that a Literature or History major might be okay with only online courses but there are any number of fields (engineering among them) where a hands-on approach is essential to understanding the material. "Pay for it themselves" just means that only the rich will be able to afford college. It's in the state and national interest for us to be able to train engineers, so certainly the state should be supporting higher ed. As for the amount, $12b divided by 132k positions = $92k/position (which also includes energy costs, rent, etc). You think it's too much? We aren't getting our money's worth out of the $4.6B for the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive line item. How much should a body that governs the worlds eighth largest economy cost? $32B for Health and Human Services is full of charges to cover illegal aliens that the Fed can't (or won't) keep out of the country, but California has to (or chooses to?) cover the bill. Specifics? * Tort reform would help too* Specifics? And what would this involve cutting?
- eggnet 17y ago
  $12b divided by 132k positions = $92k/position (which also includes energy costs, rent, etc). You think it's too much? Those 132k positions also include support staff as well as junior colleges. Yes, $92k/position average is too much. I also highly doubt it includes any form of rent, since the gov't probably owns all of the land it uses for schools and would have made a killing on it. How much should a body that governs the worlds eighth largest economy cost? I suppose that would depend on what that body does. We're currently spending 3.8% of the budget on this governing body, which seems awful high to me. Drill into the line item, it'll blow your mind: Judicial Branch: 2,001 people, $2.2 Billion budget. That's over a million dollars per person, per year, average!!! Specifics? My mistake for touching this political hotbed, but if you haven't heard of illegal aliens obtaining free health care in emergency rooms, there is plenty of info on the net about it. Tort reform. Specifics? And what would this involve cutting? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform Basically, malpractice insurance is a huge cost, some doctors pay more for that than they take home in pay. Not to mention unnecessary tests that are performed simply for protection against lawsuits. Tort reform ultimately cuts payments to lawyers. But, congress (both state and federal) is full of lawyers. I'm not hopeful for tort reform. Congress doesn't have a history of passing laws that negatively impact themselves personally. They've even exempted themselves from the "universal healthcare" legislation: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124536864955329439.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124536864955329439.html

by eggnet 17y ago

Anechoic 17y ago

We'll, I'm not sure we should be spending $12B on higher education. Let's convert that to freely available online courses. If people want the full in-person college experience, then maybe they should pay for it themselves? Isn't that a bit simplistic? Sure, one might make the argument that a Literature or History major might be okay with only online courses but there are any number of fields (engineering among them) where a hands-on approach is essential to understanding the material. "Pay for it themselves" just means that only the rich will be able to afford college. It's in the state and national interest for us to be able to train engineers, so certainly the state should be supporting higher ed. As for the amount, $12b divided by 132k positions = $92k/position (which also includes energy costs, rent, etc). You think it's too much? We aren't getting our money's worth out of the $4.6B for the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive line item. How much should a body that governs the worlds eighth largest economy cost? $32B for Health and Human Services is full of charges to cover illegal aliens that the Fed can't (or won't) keep out of the country, but California has to (or chooses to?) cover the bill. Specifics? * Tort reform would help too* Specifics? And what would this involve cutting?

eggnet 17y ago
$12b divided by 132k positions = $92k/position (which also includes energy costs, rent, etc). You think it's too much? Those 132k positions also include support staff as well as junior colleges. Yes, $92k/position average is too much. I also highly doubt it includes any form of rent, since the gov't probably owns all of the land it uses for schools and would have made a killing on it. How much should a body that governs the worlds eighth largest economy cost? I suppose that would depend on what that body does. We're currently spending 3.8% of the budget on this governing body, which seems awful high to me. Drill into the line item, it'll blow your mind: Judicial Branch: 2,001 people, $2.2 Billion budget. That's over a million dollars per person, per year, average!!! Specifics? My mistake for touching this political hotbed, but if you haven't heard of illegal aliens obtaining free health care in emergency rooms, there is plenty of info on the net about it. Tort reform. Specifics? And what would this involve cutting? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform Basically, malpractice insurance is a huge cost, some doctors pay more for that than they take home in pay. Not to mention unnecessary tests that are performed simply for protection against lawsuits. Tort reform ultimately cuts payments to lawyers. But, congress (both state and federal) is full of lawyers. I'm not hopeful for tort reform. Congress doesn't have a history of passing laws that negatively impact themselves personally. They've even exempted themselves from the "universal healthcare" legislation: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124536864955329439.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124536864955329439.html