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So previously $119 would buy him infinite years. And now $119 buys him a single year. Sounds like a downgrade to me?

by moe 11y ago

dkhenry 11y ago
no $119 would buy him one year of updates, and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to. If he chose to update on a regular basis, then he would still need to pay $119 every year
- balabaster 11y ago
  I'd read it that I would lose my "update" model and I'd have to go back to paying the full outright price again if I decided to skip an update.
- moe 11y ago
  and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to Yes, that's what I mean by downgrade. This choice was taken away from him.
- FireBeyond 11y ago
  And he'd get to use the product indefinitely, without updates, for that initial $119. Now, his software gets turned off.
- sangnoir 11y ago
  Also, under the new regime, the moment he stops paying, the IDE stops working. Previously, when you stop paying,you'd be left with a working-but-outdated version. This is definitely a downgrade
  - s73v3r 11y ago
    Do you have anything that says that's specifically what happens? Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired.
    - lol768 11y ago
      > Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired. Would you mind mentioning the question in the FAQ which states this? Everything I've read so far (notable this question: https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png) suggests the software cannot be used when a subscription is not being actively paid for each month. Cheers.
    - nogridbag 11y ago
      Where did you read that? The closest I could find was "Does the new model demand that I have Internet access?" [1] in which it states that it requires an internet connection every 30 days to authenticate and if it cannot then it will close the application. I'm guessing that also means if it does auth but sees an expired license, it would also close the application. [1] https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does-the-new-model-demand-that-I-have-Internet-access- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does...

So previously $119 would buy him infinite years. And now $119 buys him a single year. Sounds like a downgrade to me?

by moe 11y ago

So previously $119 would buy him infinite years. And now $119 buys him a single year. Sounds like a downgrade to me?

no $119 would buy him one year of updates, and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to. If he chose to update on a regular basis, then he would still need to pay $119 every year

balabaster 11y ago
I'd read it that I would lose my "update" model and I'd have to go back to paying the full outright price again if I decided to skip an update.
moe 11y ago
and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to Yes, that's what I mean by downgrade. This choice was taken away from him.
FireBeyond 11y ago
And he'd get to use the product indefinitely, without updates, for that initial $119. Now, his software gets turned off.
sangnoir 11y ago
Also, under the new regime, the moment he stops paying, the IDE stops working. Previously, when you stop paying,you'd be left with a working-but-outdated version. This is definitely a downgrade
- s73v3r 11y ago
  Do you have anything that says that's specifically what happens? Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired.
  - lol768 11y ago
    > Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired. Would you mind mentioning the question in the FAQ which states this? Everything I've read so far (notable this question: https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png) suggests the software cannot be used when a subscription is not being actively paid for each month. Cheers.
  - nogridbag 11y ago
    Where did you read that? The closest I could find was "Does the new model demand that I have Internet access?" [1] in which it states that it requires an internet connection every 30 days to authenticate and if it cannot then it will close the application. I'm guessing that also means if it does auth but sees an expired license, it would also close the application. [1] https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does-the-new-model-demand-that-I-have-Internet-access- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does...