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Wait, what? The only product I use is Resharper... I was paying $119 an update before, now I'll be paying $240?!? Yeah, that's not a good deal for me. There's n

Wait, what? The only product I use is Resharper... I was paying $119 an update before, now I'll be paying $240?!? Yeah, that's not a good deal for me. There's no amount of skewed math I can apply that makes $240 less than $119...

bbatha 11y ago
Resharper ultimate is $11.99 a month or $119 a year.
cwyers 11y ago
Here's the pricing policy: https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox/ https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox/ The $20 is for all products, Resharper alone is $11.90 a month or $119 a year.
- moe 11y ago
  So previously $119 would buy him infinite years. And now $119 buys him a single year. Sounds like a downgrade to me?
  - dkhenry 11y ago
    no $119 would buy him one year of updates, and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to. If he chose to update on a regular basis, then he would still need to pay $119 every year
    - balabaster 11y ago
      I'd read it that I would lose my "update" model and I'd have to go back to paying the full outright price again if I decided to skip an update.
    - moe 11y ago
      and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to Yes, that's what I mean by downgrade. This choice was taken away from him.
    - FireBeyond 11y ago
      And he'd get to use the product indefinitely, without updates, for that initial $119. Now, his software gets turned off.
    - sangnoir 11y ago
      Also, under the new regime, the moment he stops paying, the IDE stops working. Previously, when you stop paying,you'd be left with a working-but-outdated version. This is definitely a downgrade
      - s73v3r 11y ago
        Do you have anything that says that's specifically what happens? Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired.
        lol768 11y ago
        > Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired. Would you mind mentioning the question in the FAQ which states this? Everything I've read so far (notable this question: https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png) suggests the software cannot be used when a subscription is not being actively paid for each month. Cheers.
        nogridbag 11y ago
        Where did you read that? The closest I could find was "Does the new model demand that I have Internet access?" [1] in which it states that it requires an internet connection every 30 days to authenticate and if it cannot then it will close the application. I'm guessing that also means if it does auth but sees an expired license, it would also close the application. [1] https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does-the-new-model-demand-that-I-have-Internet-access- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does...
- pasbesoin 11y ago
  It used to be you would stop getting updates but could still use the product at its frozen (for you) point. For example, to re-examine an old project (even if you might not want to do any fresh builds on an outdated platform). Can you still do that, or does the tool "die" for you altogether once you stop paying? P.S. Assuming underlying OS compatibility, which would probably eventually break unless e.g. also frozen in a VM. P.P.S. It was a couple of years ago, and during a promotion, but I got the "whole enchilada", plus a year of updates, for a bit under $100. It was a 50% off promotion, as I recall, so the non-sale price would have been under $200. [Or maybe it was just a bit over -- either way.] I understand concerns about revenue stream; nonetheless, I have to agree with some others here in... more or less detesting such "subscription" pricing/licensing models. Among other things, I have some old, old systems and programs that work just fine, as long as I keep them isolated e.g. from the big, bad Internet. I don't want stuff that dies unless I perpetually feed it, even just for historical purposes. I've also been a Safari online book library subscriber, and I've started to regret not simply instead spending the money to buy ebook versions of the titles I'm most interested in. In areas where I have a stronger personal interest in long-term and historical access, I am growing increasingly tired of and leery of the "subscription model."
  - toyg 11y ago
    > does the tool "die" for you altogether once you stop paying? It dies. Or at least, this is what they have announced, obviously we will only be able to test from December.
    - s73v3r 11y ago
      Have they? Where have they said that?
      - simoncion 11y ago
        kileywm has this to say about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10171998 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10171998
  - 11y ago

bbatha 11y ago

Resharper ultimate is $11.99 a month or $119 a year.

cwyers 11y ago

Here's the pricing policy: https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox/ https://www.jetbrains.com/toolbox/ The $20 is for all products, Resharper alone is $11.90 a month or $119 a year.

moe 11y ago
So previously $119 would buy him infinite years. And now $119 buys him a single year. Sounds like a downgrade to me?
- dkhenry 11y ago
  no $119 would buy him one year of updates, and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to. If he chose to update on a regular basis, then he would still need to pay $119 every year
  - balabaster 11y ago
    I'd read it that I would lose my "update" model and I'd have to go back to paying the full outright price again if I decided to skip an update.
  - moe 11y ago
    and he could choose not to update in the future if he didn't want to Yes, that's what I mean by downgrade. This choice was taken away from him.
  - FireBeyond 11y ago
    And he'd get to use the product indefinitely, without updates, for that initial $119. Now, his software gets turned off.
  - sangnoir 11y ago
    Also, under the new regime, the moment he stops paying, the IDE stops working. Previously, when you stop paying,you'd be left with a working-but-outdated version. This is definitely a downgrade
    - s73v3r 11y ago
      Do you have anything that says that's specifically what happens? Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired.
      - lol768 11y ago
        > Cause their FAQ says that when your subscription expires, you can continue using the last version that was released when your sub expired. Would you mind mentioning the question in the FAQ which states this? Everything I've read so far (notable this question: https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png https://i.imgur.com/u7Y7otq.png) suggests the software cannot be used when a subscription is not being actively paid for each month. Cheers.
      - nogridbag 11y ago
        Where did you read that? The closest I could find was "Does the new model demand that I have Internet access?" [1] in which it states that it requires an internet connection every 30 days to authenticate and if it cannot then it will close the application. I'm guessing that also means if it does auth but sees an expired license, it would also close the application. [1] https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does-the-new-model-demand-that-I-have-Internet-access- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/204344871-Does...
pasbesoin 11y ago
It used to be you would stop getting updates but could still use the product at its frozen (for you) point. For example, to re-examine an old project (even if you might not want to do any fresh builds on an outdated platform). Can you still do that, or does the tool "die" for you altogether once you stop paying? P.S. Assuming underlying OS compatibility, which would probably eventually break unless e.g. also frozen in a VM. P.P.S. It was a couple of years ago, and during a promotion, but I got the "whole enchilada", plus a year of updates, for a bit under $100. It was a 50% off promotion, as I recall, so the non-sale price would have been under $200. [Or maybe it was just a bit over -- either way.] I understand concerns about revenue stream; nonetheless, I have to agree with some others here in... more or less detesting such "subscription" pricing/licensing models. Among other things, I have some old, old systems and programs that work just fine, as long as I keep them isolated e.g. from the big, bad Internet. I don't want stuff that dies unless I perpetually feed it, even just for historical purposes. I've also been a Safari online book library subscriber, and I've started to regret not simply instead spending the money to buy ebook versions of the titles I'm most interested in. In areas where I have a stronger personal interest in long-term and historical access, I am growing increasingly tired of and leery of the "subscription model."
- toyg 11y ago
  > does the tool "die" for you altogether once you stop paying? It dies. Or at least, this is what they have announced, obviously we will only be able to test from December.
  - s73v3r 11y ago
    Have they? Where have they said that?
    - simoncion 11y ago
      kileywm has this to say about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10171998 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10171998
- 11y ago