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A better choice would be Canada. For an educated professional with command of English or (even better if it's "and") French, it's very easy to become a permanen

A better choice would be Canada. For an educated professional with command of English or (even better if it's "and") French, it's very easy to become a permanent resident in Canada. 3 years later you'd be eligible for citizenship and ability to work and live in the United States (on a visa, but with very few restrictions). Otherwise, not having family in the States, you don't have many options, although not needing to work makes a few things easier. The easiest one is to enroll in an academic program. Another is to marry a US citizen. I believe Italians are still eligible for green card lottery, but you may want to double-check that. If you have 500K-1M lying around, you may invest them into a company and get a green card that way. Unless you're an Arab or a Jehova witness, you probably won't qualify for refugee status. Maybe being gay in Italy can help, but I don't have much info on that. Finally, you can get a job on an H1-B and apply for employment-based green card with your employer's cooperation.

oscardelben 17y ago
I don't have those money and I don't have a degree. However my mom was born in Canada although she doesn't have the citizenship, maybe that could help.
- gaius 17y ago
  A bachelor's degree will make things a bit easier, and a PhD a lot easier. But remember, you can move anywhere you want in the EU like, tomorrow, with no fuss whatsoever. Is the grass really greener on the other side of the Atlantic?
  - fauigerzigerk 17y ago
    Assuming he speaks itialian and english the EU comprises the UK and Ireland for him. About the only two places in the world that are greater desaster zones than the US at the moment (well, apart from Spain and Greece maybe).
    - gaius 17y ago
      With only a little of the local language you can get by pretty well in Amsterdam, Paris, Frankfurt... Any city with a significant commercial/financial community. It is actually even more difficult to learn Dutch in Amsterdam because as soon as you open your mouth, they reply in English. Outside of the major cities yes you might find it difficult, but not insurmountably so. There are Italian-speakers in Switzerland too.
      - fauigerzigerk 17y ago
        Yes the Netherlands is probably an option. But settling in Paris without being a native french speaker is notoriously difficult. That's what people tell me anyway, I never tried.
        gaius 17y ago
        Speaking from my own experience, and that of several friends, you need very little French to show up in Paris and just get on with it. Numbers, how to read street signs, what the different kinds of shops are, that sort of thing. The only thing you need good French for is if you need to deal with the local bureaucracy (unless you are or are with a pregnant woman, that is the root password to the French public sector). If you have lived in London or New York, you could get a long way in day-to-day life in Paris on intuition alone. It's a lot easier obv. if you already have a job there (I did, at a French company with a significant UK presence), but that's true of anywhere. It would be a lot harder to show up in a small town without good French, and some places will be practically impossible unless you are French, but that's a political thing.
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    - gommm 17y ago
      As an Italian, he can very easily learn French, so Belgium, France and Switzerland (both the italian and french part) are also open to him.
- gruseom 17y ago
  If she was born in Canada then I'm pretty sure she is technically a citizen and you could go through a bureaucratic process to document it.
jacquesm 17y ago
If you're going for reasons of finding employment or becoming an entrepreneur definitely do not go to Canada. Been there, done that, have the T-shirt. More red tape than you need to tie up an aircraft carrier.
- hnhg 17y ago
  Canada's held a lot of appeal to me since I see a lot of things in common with the UK (home country) only better. Can you tell me more about why it's so bad for finding employment or starting a business?
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Because the Canadian government (especially immigration) tends to string you along. If you're going to do this my advice would be to not invest a single penny into the Canadian economy until you've got your landed immigrant status. The only thing that will keep them moving is money that is still in the pipeline, once you've done your investment ($750,000 in my case) there is no more hurry since there is no more gain. And shop around because the delays vary hugely from one center to another. Please take this serious, I've been through 5 years of immigration nonsense and finally gave up, sold my assets (or gave them away) and moved back to Europe. Canada is a beautiful country, most Canadians are ok people but the government simply sucks.
    - hnhg 17y ago
      I'm in no position to invest anything but my good self at the moment but I shall remember this when/if I'm ever in the position to move. I'm a little surprised by the lack of foresight by the officials there in your case. Was that in a particular region (Ontario, Quebec or whatever)? After visiting both a few times, the US and Canada have seemed like great places to move to. Saying that, I've just been to Sweden and Denmark and thought the same about those too. I do question myself and wonder if I'm suffering from 'grass is greener' syndrome or the UK really is considerably less appealing than all these places.
      - 17y ago
herdrick 17y ago
Unless you're an Arab What? The USA considers Arabs in Italy to be in need of rescue?

oscardelben 17y ago

I don't have those money and I don't have a degree. However my mom was born in Canada although she doesn't have the citizenship, maybe that could help.

gaius 17y ago
A bachelor's degree will make things a bit easier, and a PhD a lot easier. But remember, you can move anywhere you want in the EU like, tomorrow, with no fuss whatsoever. Is the grass really greener on the other side of the Atlantic?
- fauigerzigerk 17y ago
  Assuming he speaks itialian and english the EU comprises the UK and Ireland for him. About the only two places in the world that are greater desaster zones than the US at the moment (well, apart from Spain and Greece maybe).
  - gaius 17y ago
    With only a little of the local language you can get by pretty well in Amsterdam, Paris, Frankfurt... Any city with a significant commercial/financial community. It is actually even more difficult to learn Dutch in Amsterdam because as soon as you open your mouth, they reply in English. Outside of the major cities yes you might find it difficult, but not insurmountably so. There are Italian-speakers in Switzerland too.
    - fauigerzigerk 17y ago
      Yes the Netherlands is probably an option. But settling in Paris without being a native french speaker is notoriously difficult. That's what people tell me anyway, I never tried.
      - gaius 17y ago
        Speaking from my own experience, and that of several friends, you need very little French to show up in Paris and just get on with it. Numbers, how to read street signs, what the different kinds of shops are, that sort of thing. The only thing you need good French for is if you need to deal with the local bureaucracy (unless you are or are with a pregnant woman, that is the root password to the French public sector). If you have lived in London or New York, you could get a long way in day-to-day life in Paris on intuition alone. It's a lot easier obv. if you already have a job there (I did, at a French company with a significant UK presence), but that's true of anywhere. It would be a lot harder to show up in a small town without good French, and some places will be practically impossible unless you are French, but that's a political thing.
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  - gommm 17y ago
    As an Italian, he can very easily learn French, so Belgium, France and Switzerland (both the italian and french part) are also open to him.
gruseom 17y ago
If she was born in Canada then I'm pretty sure she is technically a citizen and you could go through a bureaucratic process to document it.

jacquesm 17y ago

If you're going for reasons of finding employment or becoming an entrepreneur definitely do not go to Canada. Been there, done that, have the T-shirt. More red tape than you need to tie up an aircraft carrier.

hnhg 17y ago
Canada's held a lot of appeal to me since I see a lot of things in common with the UK (home country) only better. Can you tell me more about why it's so bad for finding employment or starting a business?
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Because the Canadian government (especially immigration) tends to string you along. If you're going to do this my advice would be to not invest a single penny into the Canadian economy until you've got your landed immigrant status. The only thing that will keep them moving is money that is still in the pipeline, once you've done your investment ($750,000 in my case) there is no more hurry since there is no more gain. And shop around because the delays vary hugely from one center to another. Please take this serious, I've been through 5 years of immigration nonsense and finally gave up, sold my assets (or gave them away) and moved back to Europe. Canada is a beautiful country, most Canadians are ok people but the government simply sucks.
  - hnhg 17y ago
    I'm in no position to invest anything but my good self at the moment but I shall remember this when/if I'm ever in the position to move. I'm a little surprised by the lack of foresight by the officials there in your case. Was that in a particular region (Ontario, Quebec or whatever)? After visiting both a few times, the US and Canada have seemed like great places to move to. Saying that, I've just been to Sweden and Denmark and thought the same about those too. I do question myself and wonder if I'm suffering from 'grass is greener' syndrome or the UK really is considerably less appealing than all these places.
    - 17y ago

herdrick 17y ago

Unless you're an Arab What? The USA considers Arabs in Italy to be in need of rescue?