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I'd say yes. I'm not a major contributor and do comment some but I've been here since the beginning and have noticed a general decline in the content and qualit

I'd say yes. I'm not a major contributor and do comment some but I've been here since the beginning and have noticed a general decline in the content and quality of comments. It's a reminder to me that I ought to vote more. Thanks for posting this.

osipov 17y ago
What do you think about a feature that makes a vote from someone with an older account count more than a newer account? I know this sounds anti-democratic, anti-"one man one vote", but it could help preserve the original character of the community.
- andrewcooke 17y ago
  how well does "sign-up date" reflect "original participant"? for example, i've got one of the older signup dates, but only started using the site a month or so ago.
lsd5you 17y ago
Is it not possible that the stock of quality items has been 'depleted'? When a site such as HN starts out there is a back log of posts people want to see.
jacquesm 17y ago
You are assuming that your votes are actually counted, this is definitely not always the case.
- DanielBMarkham 17y ago
  Another interesting point, jacques. Either I'm brown-nosing or you're especially insightful today :) As I understand the algorithm, a vote on a story that has been posted for an hour and is on the way down is not the same as a vote for a story that's only five minutes old and on the way up. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong in this
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    I wished it was as simple as that. As a rule I now refresh the page after voting, if the vote does not 'stick' I don't bother voting for 24 hours or so. Since there is no clear indicator of which votes are 'real' and which ones are 'dummies' and I refuse to be treated like a six year old pressing buttons that have no effect other than 'for me' (pacifier votes ?) there may come a point where I will simply completely stop voting. Edit: hey there downmodder, whoever you are. PG is on the record about this, I don't know where you get your information but it doesn't get much better than that.
    - icey 17y ago
      Sometimes it takes the server a minute to catch up; have you tried refreshing after a minute or two? I've noticed this as well, but usually the vote shows up if I wait a minute and refresh.
      - jacquesm 17y ago
        Yes, but that's a different issue. Votes are definitely not always counted even though you get the illusion that they are.
        tokenadult 17y ago
        Above you wrote, You are assuming that your votes are actually counted, this is definitely not always the case. I'm not seeing this. Some of what's on the site is "lazy loaded," as I recall being officially said, but to the best of my knowledge and belief a vote is a vote, and votes get counted. (There are two HN voters in my household, who visit different threads most of the time, and neither of us feel our votes aren't counted.) What would be definitive evidence of votes not being counted (as contrasted with some other possible explanations for what appears to be that condition)?
        jacquesm 17y ago
        Whether you don't see it or not is not relevant, I'm seeing it and that's good enough for me. Belief doesn't enter in to it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=871202 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=871202 It persists to this date, you just have to work a bit to see it in action.

osipov 17y ago

What do you think about a feature that makes a vote from someone with an older account count more than a newer account? I know this sounds anti-democratic, anti-"one man one vote", but it could help preserve the original character of the community.

andrewcooke 17y ago
how well does "sign-up date" reflect "original participant"? for example, i've got one of the older signup dates, but only started using the site a month or so ago.

lsd5you 17y ago

Is it not possible that the stock of quality items has been 'depleted'? When a site such as HN starts out there is a back log of posts people want to see.

jacquesm 17y ago

You are assuming that your votes are actually counted, this is definitely not always the case.

DanielBMarkham 17y ago
Another interesting point, jacques. Either I'm brown-nosing or you're especially insightful today :) As I understand the algorithm, a vote on a story that has been posted for an hour and is on the way down is not the same as a vote for a story that's only five minutes old and on the way up. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong in this
- jacquesm 17y ago
  I wished it was as simple as that. As a rule I now refresh the page after voting, if the vote does not 'stick' I don't bother voting for 24 hours or so. Since there is no clear indicator of which votes are 'real' and which ones are 'dummies' and I refuse to be treated like a six year old pressing buttons that have no effect other than 'for me' (pacifier votes ?) there may come a point where I will simply completely stop voting. Edit: hey there downmodder, whoever you are. PG is on the record about this, I don't know where you get your information but it doesn't get much better than that.
  - icey 17y ago
    Sometimes it takes the server a minute to catch up; have you tried refreshing after a minute or two? I've noticed this as well, but usually the vote shows up if I wait a minute and refresh.
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      Yes, but that's a different issue. Votes are definitely not always counted even though you get the illusion that they are.
      - tokenadult 17y ago
        Above you wrote, You are assuming that your votes are actually counted, this is definitely not always the case. I'm not seeing this. Some of what's on the site is "lazy loaded," as I recall being officially said, but to the best of my knowledge and belief a vote is a vote, and votes get counted. (There are two HN voters in my household, who visit different threads most of the time, and neither of us feel our votes aren't counted.) What would be definitive evidence of votes not being counted (as contrasted with some other possible explanations for what appears to be that condition)?
        jacquesm 17y ago
        Whether you don't see it or not is not relevant, I'm seeing it and that's good enough for me. Belief doesn't enter in to it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=871202 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=871202 It persists to this date, you just have to work a bit to see it in action.