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I feel bad for the state of discussion on HN that you were downvoted for asking an honest, polite request for more information.

javert 11y ago
Since you mention it... I recently lost 11 points in the span of a few minutes (while writing a comment), apparently because someone went and downvoted all my recent comments. I've seen other suspicious behavior for months, but it's more anecdotal, so I won't go into it here. tl;dr I am probably getting vote brigaded. edit: And now I am "submitting too fast" and can't continue the conversations I am in (though I can still make edits). I don't know how the algorithm for that works, but I suspect (from experience) it's partially based partially on how many downvotes you're getting, because I often hit this without submitting quickly or all that much. Also from experience, it takes a really long time before you can start submitting again. So I'm effectively silenced (until next time...). edit2: "If you talk about downvotes, chances are you'll get downvoted" (below---I'm still "rate" limited). Well, someone else raised the issue of culture on HN (not me), and I'm providing data. This is constructive, as opposed to simply bitching about getting downvotes, which I am being accused of. That is wrong and I never do that, as my comment history will prove. This accusation is conflating two entirely different things and is really unjust and unhelpful. Again, having someone systematically downvote your comment history is not the same as complaining about people downvoting a particular comment because they don't like it. Calling me a "bore" because I am reporting abusive behavior is beyond the pale.
- striking 11y ago
  "A bore is someone who persists in holding his own views after we have enlightened him with ours." If you talk about downvotes, chances are you'll get downvoted...
  - talmand 11y ago
    >> "A bore is someone who persists in holding his own views after we have enlightened him with ours." Where is that quote from? It's been a while since I've seen such an elitist snarky statement and I'd like to know who to attribute it to.
    - striking 11y ago
      Frankly, I couldn't tell you. I get my quotes from `nc alpha.mike-r.com 17`; some come with attribution, some don't. A great quote though, no? (Aside: Why doesn't everyone run a QoTD server? The world would be a better place for it.)
Shivetya 11y ago
politics, environmentalism, and sexual orientation, are highly clique oriented here to the point you might as well be on reddit.
olavk 11y ago
Asking why it is a problem to move cites honestly sounds more like trolling than a honest question.
- spacehome 11y ago
  Moving or converting cities does seem like an incredible undertaking. However, it also looks like making the world reign in its carbon emissions sufficiently has been tried and is not yet successful; maybe it's actually impossible as opposed to just difficult. At least changing the world to adapt to climate change doesn't have the tragedy of the commons working against it, because when a local government works to prepare for whatever is going to happen, the benefit accrues locally to the people making the sacrifice. I read several of javert's posts, and I don't get the impression of a troll.
  - intended 11y ago
    The issue at hand, isn't the people in the first world. how would you move a city like Mumbai? Or how about any of the villages in the hinterlands, like Waynard Kerala, Nagpur Maharashtra, random village in Bihar. There is very strong regional centrism when CC gets discussed on the web (for obvious reasons). Local government has a hard time getting by now, in the places that have it at all. Moving a city? Building infrastructure to manage water shortages? I do not see how those human beings, with those resources, are going to achieve that. Only a few groups can talk about adapting to climate change.
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javert 11y ago

Since you mention it... I recently lost 11 points in the span of a few minutes (while writing a comment), apparently because someone went and downvoted all my recent comments. I've seen other suspicious behavior for months, but it's more anecdotal, so I won't go into it here. tl;dr I am probably getting vote brigaded. edit: And now I am "submitting too fast" and can't continue the conversations I am in (though I can still make edits). I don't know how the algorithm for that works, but I suspect (from experience) it's partially based partially on how many downvotes you're getting, because I often hit this without submitting quickly or all that much. Also from experience, it takes a really long time before you can start submitting again. So I'm effectively silenced (until next time...). edit2: "If you talk about downvotes, chances are you'll get downvoted" (below---I'm still "rate" limited). Well, someone else raised the issue of culture on HN (not me), and I'm providing data. This is constructive, as opposed to simply bitching about getting downvotes, which I am being accused of. That is wrong and I never do that, as my comment history will prove. This accusation is conflating two entirely different things and is really unjust and unhelpful. Again, having someone systematically downvote your comment history is not the same as complaining about people downvoting a particular comment because they don't like it. Calling me a "bore" because I am reporting abusive behavior is beyond the pale.

striking 11y ago
"A bore is someone who persists in holding his own views after we have enlightened him with ours." If you talk about downvotes, chances are you'll get downvoted...
- talmand 11y ago
  >> "A bore is someone who persists in holding his own views after we have enlightened him with ours." Where is that quote from? It's been a while since I've seen such an elitist snarky statement and I'd like to know who to attribute it to.
  - striking 11y ago
    Frankly, I couldn't tell you. I get my quotes from `nc alpha.mike-r.com 17`; some come with attribution, some don't. A great quote though, no? (Aside: Why doesn't everyone run a QoTD server? The world would be a better place for it.)

Shivetya 11y ago

politics, environmentalism, and sexual orientation, are highly clique oriented here to the point you might as well be on reddit.

olavk 11y ago

Asking why it is a problem to move cites honestly sounds more like trolling than a honest question.

spacehome 11y ago
Moving or converting cities does seem like an incredible undertaking. However, it also looks like making the world reign in its carbon emissions sufficiently has been tried and is not yet successful; maybe it's actually impossible as opposed to just difficult. At least changing the world to adapt to climate change doesn't have the tragedy of the commons working against it, because when a local government works to prepare for whatever is going to happen, the benefit accrues locally to the people making the sacrifice. I read several of javert's posts, and I don't get the impression of a troll.
- intended 11y ago
  The issue at hand, isn't the people in the first world. how would you move a city like Mumbai? Or how about any of the villages in the hinterlands, like Waynard Kerala, Nagpur Maharashtra, random village in Bihar. There is very strong regional centrism when CC gets discussed on the web (for obvious reasons). Local government has a hard time getting by now, in the places that have it at all. Moving a city? Building infrastructure to manage water shortages? I do not see how those human beings, with those resources, are going to achieve that. Only a few groups can talk about adapting to climate change.

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