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Have they done any long-term studies on smoking pot vs. vaping vs. edibles?

by amwelles 11y ago

hellbanner 11y ago
I'm not aware of any, but edibles certainly won't cause lung damage.
- nickff 11y ago
  Though they may cause stomach and/or intestinal damage.
  - duaneb 11y ago
    People have been ingesting cannabis since long, long, long before they smoked it from a pipe. It would surprise me if there are dire health effects that are entirely undiscovered. This is, of course, shitty compared to actually providing a study.
    - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
      People have been ingesting cannabis since long, long, long before they smoked it from a pipe. It would surprise me if there are dire health effects that are entirely undiscovered. The same held true for tobacco for quite a long time, do keep in mind.
      - duaneb 11y ago
        Are there poor health effects from ingesting tabacco? it makes my stomach turn, but I wouldn't jump to cancer.
        nickff 11y ago
        Yes, according to a number of sources.[1][2] [1] http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in-depth/chewing-tobacco/art-20047428?pg=2 http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in-... [2] http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/smokeless-tobacco http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/smok...
        duaneb 11y ago
        Nice find. The likely carcinogens in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco-specific_nitrosamines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco-specific_nitrosamines
        DanBC 11y ago
        Yes. In fact, there are also problems for smkers who cough up and then swallow phlegm - this increases risk of bladder and penile cancers.
        comrh 11y ago
        Stomach, esophagus, and pancreas cancers are all common for people who dip. The chemical difference between smokeless tobacco and marijuana in food is probably a lot different though.
  - gnaritas 11y ago
    No, not any more than eating any other food; it's a plant, it isn't going to hurt your stomach.
    - Amezarak 11y ago
      > No, not any more than eating any other food; it's a plant, it isn't going to hurt your stomach. There are plenty of plants that can hurt your stomach a great deal. Some will even kill you. "It's a plant" is not an argument.
      - gnaritas 11y ago
        It's not a poisonousness plant.
    - dictum 11y ago
      >it's a plant, it isn't going to hurt your stomach Let me be hyperpedantic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants
      - gnaritas 11y ago
        It's not a poisonousness plant.
  - hellbanner 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...
duaneb 11y ago
Well, if you're not breathing in tar, heavy metals, free radicals, etc., it's not hard to come out on top over smoking.
- johnward 11y ago
  There still has to be some damage from smoke inhalation, no? Then I'm curious about smoking vs "vaping" vs oil etc. Anecdotally I see a lot of old hippies still kicking. edit: I didn't realize you were pointing out the effect of smoking cannabis.
  - duaneb 11y ago
    Sorry, that WAS the damage from smoke inhalation. Theoretically if you're vaping or eating you shouldn't be combusting anything and should get 0 smoke. And yes, you can get lung/throat cancer from inhaling pot smoke. Probably way worse than from a cigarette because there's no filter (THC is super sticky, so it's kind of counter productive).
    - joesmo 11y ago
      This is a myth. Smoking marijuana might actually be negatively correlated with lung cancer for long term users. Regardless, it's certainly not associated with increased lung cancer or increased risk for COPD. You and others who are misinformed should stop spreading around these ridiculous lies and look at the science: "Although marijuana smoke contains a number of carcinogens and cocarcinogens, findings from a limited number of well-designed epidemiological studies do not suggest an increased risk for the development of either lung or upper airway cancer from light or moderate use, although evidence is mixed concerning possible carcinogenic risks of heavy, long-term use." -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
      - duaneb 11y ago
        It is far and away irrisponsible to call a health effect a myth because one paper suggests an opposite effect for light to moderate users. Considering we DO know what we are inhaling, and we DO know it causes massive problems for other smoked substances, it is rational to think that there are likely related effects. Until we can identify that these effects are NOT occurring, we should definitely assume that you can get lung cancer by inhaling massive amounts of carcinogens.

Have they done any long-term studies on smoking pot vs. vaping vs. edibles?

hellbanner 11y ago

I'm not aware of any, but edibles certainly won't cause lung damage.

nickff 11y ago
Though they may cause stomach and/or intestinal damage.
- duaneb 11y ago
  People have been ingesting cannabis since long, long, long before they smoked it from a pipe. It would surprise me if there are dire health effects that are entirely undiscovered. This is, of course, shitty compared to actually providing a study.
  - vezzy-fnord 11y ago
    People have been ingesting cannabis since long, long, long before they smoked it from a pipe. It would surprise me if there are dire health effects that are entirely undiscovered. The same held true for tobacco for quite a long time, do keep in mind.
    - duaneb 11y ago
      Are there poor health effects from ingesting tabacco? it makes my stomach turn, but I wouldn't jump to cancer.
      - nickff 11y ago
        Yes, according to a number of sources.[1][2] [1] http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in-depth/chewing-tobacco/art-20047428?pg=2 http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/quit-smoking/in-... [2] http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/smokeless-tobacco http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/smok...
        duaneb 11y ago
        Nice find. The likely carcinogens in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco-specific_nitrosamines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco-specific_nitrosamines
      - DanBC 11y ago
        Yes. In fact, there are also problems for smkers who cough up and then swallow phlegm - this increases risk of bladder and penile cancers.
      - comrh 11y ago
        Stomach, esophagus, and pancreas cancers are all common for people who dip. The chemical difference between smokeless tobacco and marijuana in food is probably a lot different though.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  No, not any more than eating any other food; it's a plant, it isn't going to hurt your stomach.
  - Amezarak 11y ago
    > No, not any more than eating any other food; it's a plant, it isn't going to hurt your stomach. There are plenty of plants that can hurt your stomach a great deal. Some will even kill you. "It's a plant" is not an argument.
    - gnaritas 11y ago
      It's not a poisonousness plant.
  - dictum 11y ago
    >it's a plant, it isn't going to hurt your stomach Let me be hyperpedantic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_poisonous_plants
    - gnaritas 11y ago
      It's not a poisonousness plant.
- hellbanner 11y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...

duaneb 11y ago

Well, if you're not breathing in tar, heavy metals, free radicals, etc., it's not hard to come out on top over smoking.

johnward 11y ago
There still has to be some damage from smoke inhalation, no? Then I'm curious about smoking vs "vaping" vs oil etc. Anecdotally I see a lot of old hippies still kicking. edit: I didn't realize you were pointing out the effect of smoking cannabis.
- duaneb 11y ago
  Sorry, that WAS the damage from smoke inhalation. Theoretically if you're vaping or eating you shouldn't be combusting anything and should get 0 smoke. And yes, you can get lung/throat cancer from inhaling pot smoke. Probably way worse than from a cigarette because there's no filter (THC is super sticky, so it's kind of counter productive).
  - joesmo 11y ago
    This is a myth. Smoking marijuana might actually be negatively correlated with lung cancer for long term users. Regardless, it's certainly not associated with increased lung cancer or increased risk for COPD. You and others who are misinformed should stop spreading around these ridiculous lies and look at the science: "Although marijuana smoke contains a number of carcinogens and cocarcinogens, findings from a limited number of well-designed epidemiological studies do not suggest an increased risk for the development of either lung or upper airway cancer from light or moderate use, although evidence is mixed concerning possible carcinogenic risks of heavy, long-term use." -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23802821
    - duaneb 11y ago
      It is far and away irrisponsible to call a health effect a myth because one paper suggests an opposite effect for light to moderate users. Considering we DO know what we are inhaling, and we DO know it causes massive problems for other smoked substances, it is rational to think that there are likely related effects. Until we can identify that these effects are NOT occurring, we should definitely assume that you can get lung cancer by inhaling massive amounts of carcinogens.