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I think you are being a little naive about this. I am sure (much like the cable company does with "introductory" rates) that JetBrains was careful to set an in

by hoopism 11y ago

I think you are being a little naive about this. I am sure (much like the cable company does with "introductory" rates) that JetBrains was careful to set an initial price point that makes this a competitive offer. The problem (as better stated elsewhere) is that the relationship is changed going forward. If they decide to raise the rates you are now left with the decision to continue at a less advantageous rate or have no product at all. In addition, you assume that a major release per year is an inevitability. There may very well be no compelling reason to update... but it won't matter in this instance because you will pay no matter what. teacup50 did a better job describing this...

gorohoroh 11y ago
I see this is turning into a conspiracy theory ) Fortunately, there's a little thing called competition that prevents raising rates at will without facing the consequences, and JetBrains is no exception: we're no monopoly. I'm sure different product teams here at JetBrains will adapt to the new model in a different way. My hope is that the change will contribute to a focus switch from a race to provide new features to ensuring better stability, performance and UX.
- hoopism 11y ago
  "Fortunately, there's a little thing called competition that prevents raising rates at will without facing the consequences, and JetBrains is no exception: we're no monopoly." Should add this to the press release. Would make me feel lucky to be a customer...
- teacup50 11y ago
  It doesn't take a conspiracy. Humans follow their incentives. Customers are incentivized to keep ponying up for a subscription, because the alternative is a costly transition to other tools. JetBrains, like any other business, is incentivized to maximize profits and minimize costs. Customers assign value to avoiding costly disruption. That means that JetBrains is incentivized to lower costs by reducing the amount of value they otherwise provide to customers. This is the very definition of "rent-seeking" behavior, and it's scummy.
snuxoll 11y ago
> If they decide to raise the rates you are now left with the decision to continue at a less advantageous rate or have no product at all. I'm not left with any such decision, they have explicitly stated in their FAQ that the 'existing customer' rates will continue indefinitely as long as the subscription is maintained. Sure, this means if I cancel I lose my special pricing, I'm not blind, but I don't see it happening. > In addition, you assume that a major release per year is an inevitability. I don't assume any such thing. I do not renew my licenses every year solely for the purpose of getting major new releases, point versions of current releases are part of the S&M as well, and getting left without bugfixes or support is not an option.

by hoopism 11y ago

gorohoroh 11y ago

I see this is turning into a conspiracy theory ) Fortunately, there's a little thing called competition that prevents raising rates at will without facing the consequences, and JetBrains is no exception: we're no monopoly. I'm sure different product teams here at JetBrains will adapt to the new model in a different way. My hope is that the change will contribute to a focus switch from a race to provide new features to ensuring better stability, performance and UX.

hoopism 11y ago
"Fortunately, there's a little thing called competition that prevents raising rates at will without facing the consequences, and JetBrains is no exception: we're no monopoly." Should add this to the press release. Would make me feel lucky to be a customer...
teacup50 11y ago
It doesn't take a conspiracy. Humans follow their incentives. Customers are incentivized to keep ponying up for a subscription, because the alternative is a costly transition to other tools. JetBrains, like any other business, is incentivized to maximize profits and minimize costs. Customers assign value to avoiding costly disruption. That means that JetBrains is incentivized to lower costs by reducing the amount of value they otherwise provide to customers. This is the very definition of "rent-seeking" behavior, and it's scummy.

snuxoll 11y ago

> If they decide to raise the rates you are now left with the decision to continue at a less advantageous rate or have no product at all. I'm not left with any such decision, they have explicitly stated in their FAQ that the 'existing customer' rates will continue indefinitely as long as the subscription is maintained. Sure, this means if I cancel I lose my special pricing, I'm not blind, but I don't see it happening. > In addition, you assume that a major release per year is an inevitability. I don't assume any such thing. I do not renew my licenses every year solely for the purpose of getting major new releases, point versions of current releases are part of the S&M as well, and getting left without bugfixes or support is not an option.