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> Can I write my academic paper, manual, book, thesis, etc. in Madoko instead of LaTeX? For me a strict requirement for this is that I can use a particular tem
by michaelmior 11y ago
> Can I write my academic paper, manual, book, thesis, etc. in Madoko instead of LaTeX?
For me a strict requirement for this is that I can use a particular template and document class. Unfortunately I don't have any choice as to what the particular format is. It's not clear if Madoko makes this possible.
- twblalock 11y agoThis is the problem if you want to publish. A lot of journals want .docx or Latex files, not PDFs, and they will simply reject submissions that don't comply with their requirements. It would be nice if journals would accept Markdown, but frankly I don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
- michaelhoffman 11y agoPandoc is a great solution for converting Markdown into LaTeX and you can add arbitrary LaTeX code at the beginning and end of the output.
- suncanon 11y agoEven if your journal accepts PDFs, michaelmior's comment raises an important issue that a LaTeX style template cannot be imported into most (or all?) of these Markdown editors. This would be a great feature to add, IMO!
- cls59 11y agoThe issue with that is that a LaTeX template is turing-complete. Doing a meaningful import of arbitrary journal styles without re-implementing TeX is a very, very, very hard problem.
- yid 11y ago> Even if your journal accepts PDFs, michaelmior's comment raises an important issue that a LaTeX style template cannot be imported into most (or all?) of these Markdown editors. Perhaps it would be easier to go the other way -- to modify a Markdown parser to output a simple subset of Latex that can fit into most common academic templates.
- jahewson 11y agoPersonally, I've never encountered a journal that wanted a LaTeX file. Always the PDF.
- michaelmior 11y agoI've had journals ask for both. However they claim to only use the LaTeX file as reference in case there are issues in typesetting. In any case, it's still necessary to produce a LaTeX file in order to use the LaTeX template.
- dagw 11y agoEven the ones that will accept a PDF tend to require a PDF generated using their very specific template and style.
- semi-extrinsic 11y agoI believe most (all?) Elsevier journals require the LaTeX source, so you upload the .tex, .bib and any images etc. to their EES wepage, which compiles the PDF there.
- QuantumRoar 11y agoEarlier this year, I needed to upload the LaTeX file and it needed to be written with the journal's template. In order to specifically fit into the journal's guidelines, the template was sent to some editing contractor where some minor changes where made to the source, e.g. "eq." to "Eq.". As far as I know, a lot of the journals have their own automated build systems for the manuscripts to perfectly fit into their designs. Nevertheless, I've also encountered PDF uploads. But even then, the PDF will be automatically checked for consistency.
- cben 11y agoDo you mean for review, or even when they've accepted and ask for a camera-ready version? I always assumed all publishers need the source so they can do the small tweaks they do. [OTOH, I've seen claims many publishers already have a process for publishing Word submissions — something involving monks spending their lives typesetting everything from scratch? — and so when they do get a nice LaTeX, they throw the source out re-use the above process! Perhaps that was only about the bibliography though.] I've seen some Springer (LNCS) submissions, and those definitely included the .tex source. arXiv requires the source, mainly so they can re-compile them in the future with better tools [https://arxiv.org/help/faq/whytex https://arxiv.org/help/faq/whytex]. Unusually, they make sources available for anyone to download.
- michaelmior 11y agoOne of the problems with accepting Markdown is that your work will still likely be formatted as a PDF and if you submit Markdown, you don't really know what that final output is going to look like. At least not without a lot of extra tooling on the part of the publisher.
- fluidcruft 11y agoThat's also true about Word docx submissions, too. After acceptance, you approve their proof.
- tormeh 11y agoWrite it in Lyx and export to Latex. Pleasant editing with professional-looking result. Best of both worlds, and the journal won't know.