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I understand that people wouldn't like the idea of not "owning" their copy, but is this really that much different than what we're doing already? current model

I understand that people wouldn't like the idea of not "owning" their copy, but is this really that much different than what we're doing already? current model: purchase new upgraded version of resharper every year (or two). abandon old version. new model: subscribe to resharper. upgrade when new version comes out. abandon old version. Is anyone really using a copy of resharper 6 right now? and VS2010?

lol768 11y ago
Yes, I still use an old copy of ReSharper at home. I don't use C# often enough to justify paying every year and I'm quite content to sit on an older version of the IDE & its plugins because I rarely boot into Windows anyway.
wvenable 11y ago
Still using VS2010 although I'm in the works to move to VS2015 -- skipped 2012 and 2013 entirely. I also have phpStorm but I didn't upgrade this year as I'm not doing as much PHP development anymore. However, I still use it to make changes to old code bases.
bobcostas55 11y ago
The difference is that the new purchases provided a strong incentive to JetBrains to make their software better. If the new version doesn't add anything useful, people wouldn't upgrade. Now you have to keep paying whether they add features or not.
- dragonwriter 11y ago
  OTOH, if the subscription price is substantially lower than the pre-subscription purchase price, JetBrains has to keep improving faster than the competition long enough to get you to keep buying the subscription for several cycles instead of switching to a competing option or they are losing money from going from outright purchase to subscription.
  - Aldo_MX 11y ago
    But it isn't unless you purchase the bundle with every application, the worst offender is WebStorm, with a price of 99 USD/year vs the price of 29 USD/upgrade it had in the past.
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      > But it isn't unless you purchase the bundle with every application The initial buy-in is cheaper for many products than it was previously, so for new developers they have to have some ability to retain people to even break even with subscription licensing. The annual subscription seems to be more expensive than the current per-upgrade add-on price for most products, though. And, of course, there are some, like WebStorm, where the annual subscription price is more even the new-purchase price under the old model. So, its kind of a mixed bag.

lol768 11y ago

Yes, I still use an old copy of ReSharper at home. I don't use C# often enough to justify paying every year and I'm quite content to sit on an older version of the IDE & its plugins because I rarely boot into Windows anyway.

wvenable 11y ago

Still using VS2010 although I'm in the works to move to VS2015 -- skipped 2012 and 2013 entirely. I also have phpStorm but I didn't upgrade this year as I'm not doing as much PHP development anymore. However, I still use it to make changes to old code bases.

bobcostas55 11y ago

The difference is that the new purchases provided a strong incentive to JetBrains to make their software better. If the new version doesn't add anything useful, people wouldn't upgrade. Now you have to keep paying whether they add features or not.

dragonwriter 11y ago
OTOH, if the subscription price is substantially lower than the pre-subscription purchase price, JetBrains has to keep improving faster than the competition long enough to get you to keep buying the subscription for several cycles instead of switching to a competing option or they are losing money from going from outright purchase to subscription.
- Aldo_MX 11y ago
  But it isn't unless you purchase the bundle with every application, the worst offender is WebStorm, with a price of 99 USD/year vs the price of 29 USD/upgrade it had in the past.
  - dragonwriter 11y ago
    > But it isn't unless you purchase the bundle with every application The initial buy-in is cheaper for many products than it was previously, so for new developers they have to have some ability to retain people to even break even with subscription licensing. The annual subscription seems to be more expensive than the current per-upgrade add-on price for most products, though. And, of course, there are some, like WebStorm, where the annual subscription price is more even the new-purchase price under the old model. So, its kind of a mixed bag.