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I'm glad you had a good, reasonable experience. On Wednesday, I was told by a TSO that I couldn't bring my baby on board. She was making a joke, because she w

I'm glad you had a good, reasonable experience. On Wednesday, I was told by a TSO that I couldn't bring my baby on board. She was making a joke, because she wanted to assert that the baby was cute, but telling someone they can't bring their baby on a plane at the security checkpoint is about as serious a joke to parents as joking about carrying a bomb is to TSOs.

philwelch 17y ago
For what it's worth, you apparently kept your cool. I imagine if your reaction was anywhere near how you really felt about it you'd be detained and tasered for awhile.
- tibbon 17y ago
  I'll admit I was nervous. I normally pass through completely unnervous- but as soon as they went to rescan my jacket, I knew what was in the pocket. I know in some states simply carrying lockpicks is illegal (probably MA too for all I know, but I do it anyway), let alone taking them on a plane. I was thinking, "shit, shit, shit, shit" but knew that if I played as sincere, naive and innocent (which to a degree I was all three) then I'd be fine. I do know however, just as in any situation with any law enforcement (or quasi law enforcement) that you do not lie to them. You talk around the truth like an Aes Sedai if you must, but don't lie. If you are pulled into a room for more questioning and you're forced to reveal that you lied, it will be much worse to get out of.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    The best way not to lie to cops is not to say anything at all. If you lie they'll pin you on your lies, and if you tell the truth they'll crucify you with that, too. Thankfully you have a constitutional right to remain silent. Personally, I only do that when it seems like serious business. When I'm pulled over for speeding there's no gain playing mute.
- thwarted 17y ago
  Considering how this thread expanded, I'm not sure who you're responding to. It was more of a "this is what my tax dollars is paying for?" eye rolling moment. That being said, the TSO who joked that we couldn't bring our baby on the plane was apparently loitering not doing whateve her job was and was assigned to go do something by her manager as we finished putting our shoes on, so there are at least some professional in management at the TSA.
  - philwelch 17y ago
    I was responding to you, which is why I nested it under your comment. I did a double take at tibbon's response to me, but it seemed like he was taking it on a slight tangent, as happens. I just have to imagine if it was my kid, I would have freaked out and been a little pissed off. I don't think I could have kept my cool as you have, and I fear for the consequences of that.

philwelch 17y ago

For what it's worth, you apparently kept your cool. I imagine if your reaction was anywhere near how you really felt about it you'd be detained and tasered for awhile.

tibbon 17y ago
I'll admit I was nervous. I normally pass through completely unnervous- but as soon as they went to rescan my jacket, I knew what was in the pocket. I know in some states simply carrying lockpicks is illegal (probably MA too for all I know, but I do it anyway), let alone taking them on a plane. I was thinking, "shit, shit, shit, shit" but knew that if I played as sincere, naive and innocent (which to a degree I was all three) then I'd be fine. I do know however, just as in any situation with any law enforcement (or quasi law enforcement) that you do not lie to them. You talk around the truth like an Aes Sedai if you must, but don't lie. If you are pulled into a room for more questioning and you're forced to reveal that you lied, it will be much worse to get out of.
- philwelch 17y ago
  The best way not to lie to cops is not to say anything at all. If you lie they'll pin you on your lies, and if you tell the truth they'll crucify you with that, too. Thankfully you have a constitutional right to remain silent. Personally, I only do that when it seems like serious business. When I'm pulled over for speeding there's no gain playing mute.
thwarted 17y ago
Considering how this thread expanded, I'm not sure who you're responding to. It was more of a "this is what my tax dollars is paying for?" eye rolling moment. That being said, the TSO who joked that we couldn't bring our baby on the plane was apparently loitering not doing whateve her job was and was assigned to go do something by her manager as we finished putting our shoes on, so there are at least some professional in management at the TSA.
- philwelch 17y ago
  I was responding to you, which is why I nested it under your comment. I did a double take at tibbon's response to me, but it seemed like he was taking it on a slight tangent, as happens. I just have to imagine if it was my kid, I would have freaked out and been a little pissed off. I don't think I could have kept my cool as you have, and I fear for the consequences of that.