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> The hysteria over synthetic drugs in general is unwarranted, reactionary nonsense. It sounds like you have some knowledge and evidence of their safety. Knowl

by fl3x1n 11y ago

> The hysteria over synthetic drugs in general is unwarranted, reactionary nonsense. It sounds like you have some knowledge and evidence of their safety. Knowledge that neither I nor the rest of the world has. Why don't you share it then? From what I've read and seen of the medical issues associated with these untested substances the reactions seem entirely appropriate.

Nursie 11y ago
I'm referring to things like the media scares over 'bath salts' and the tendency a couple of years ago to blame everything on them. Many/most of the extreme cases turned out to be nothing to do them. Oh and in the UK - mephedrone, which was banned purely because it became popular. Nobody did themselves much harm with it until after prohibition.
- cpncrunch 11y ago
  >Oh and in the UK - mephedrone, which was banned purely because it became popular. Nobody did themselves much harm with it until after prohibition. That's not true. There have been quite a few fatal mephedrone overdoses in the UK.
  - Nursie 11y ago
    Evidence? As far as I could ever tell there was only one widely reported (before prohibition), and it was misreported by the press. The substance that killed that guy was methadone. --edit-- I see from a quick scan of wikipedia that there were a very few deaths The only one definitely cause by mephedrone and pre-ban I can see was "The first death reported to be caused by mephedrone use was that of 46-year-old, John Sterling Smith, who had underlying health problems and repeatedly injected the drug" It's not exactly a surprise at that point.
    - cpncrunch 11y ago
      Not sure about pre-ban, but there are quite a few deaths listed in the wikipedia article, many of which do seem to be caused by the drug.
      - Nursie 11y ago
        Post-ban in the UK, well, impurities came in and things started to go wrong. Wikipedia lists a number of deaths where mephedrone was present, but AFAICT there were very few where it was causative. I shall tone down my initial statement - mephedrone appears to have been a relatively safe drug, given the huge scale if its use pre-ban and the very small number of deaths.

by fl3x1n 11y ago

Nursie 11y ago

I'm referring to things like the media scares over 'bath salts' and the tendency a couple of years ago to blame everything on them. Many/most of the extreme cases turned out to be nothing to do them. Oh and in the UK - mephedrone, which was banned purely because it became popular. Nobody did themselves much harm with it until after prohibition.

cpncrunch 11y ago
>Oh and in the UK - mephedrone, which was banned purely because it became popular. Nobody did themselves much harm with it until after prohibition. That's not true. There have been quite a few fatal mephedrone overdoses in the UK.
- Nursie 11y ago
  Evidence? As far as I could ever tell there was only one widely reported (before prohibition), and it was misreported by the press. The substance that killed that guy was methadone. --edit-- I see from a quick scan of wikipedia that there were a very few deaths The only one definitely cause by mephedrone and pre-ban I can see was "The first death reported to be caused by mephedrone use was that of 46-year-old, John Sterling Smith, who had underlying health problems and repeatedly injected the drug" It's not exactly a surprise at that point.
  - cpncrunch 11y ago
    Not sure about pre-ban, but there are quite a few deaths listed in the wikipedia article, many of which do seem to be caused by the drug.
    - Nursie 11y ago
      Post-ban in the UK, well, impurities came in and things started to go wrong. Wikipedia lists a number of deaths where mephedrone was present, but AFAICT there were very few where it was causative. I shall tone down my initial statement - mephedrone appears to have been a relatively safe drug, given the huge scale if its use pre-ban and the very small number of deaths.