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But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net bu

But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net but it's probably low enough to allow scaling "workers" on ARM servers, while DBs are kept on 64bits dedicated Intel servers. Also if you want to scale horizontally, you probably want to scale on more than one datacenter (online provides that too).

sgentle 11y ago
By the look of it they use the same DCs (Iliad DC2 & DC3): https://www.scaleway.com/faq/general/ https://www.scaleway.com/faq/general/
cuonic 11y ago
Scaleway servers are hosted in Online.net's DC2, you can get dedicated servers in the same DC, or in another one of their DCs which are all directly linked to one another.
jo909 11y ago
You are correct that you maybe can combine that with dedicated servers from online.net, but managing that might be a headache. Scaleway presents itself as a cloud service after all, where easy/automated management, quick scaling, rapid deployment etc is an important part of the equation. Good point that they seem to be missing multiple availability zones. A lot can be forgiven at that price.
- weddpros 11y ago
  It looks pretty clean to me to have dedicated intel servers with lots of memory and local disks for DBs, and workers that can be easily started with an API! We are currently running on online's dedicated intel servers (among others), but we've kept an eye on their ARM offering...
conorgdaly 11y ago
speaking of online.net, they currently have a banner ad front and center on their homepage for scaleway which says: "Run up to 10 bare metal SSD cloud server for free" [1] Clicking through just lands me on the scaleway homepage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Clicking around their site and couldn't see any mention of it. [1] http://www.online.net/img/carousel/cloud.jpg http://www.online.net/img/carousel/cloud.jpg screengrab: http://imgur.com/cuvZlgb http://imgur.com/cuvZlgb
- cuonic 11y ago
  Scaleway offer the first month for free, and the maximum amount of servers you can have running during the free trial is limited to 10, to benefit just signup on https://www.scaleway.com https://www.scaleway.com
- osivertsson 11y ago
  They've had this deal for some time, just sign up and they won't charge for max 10 c1's the first month. They will however charge for IPs, and they are not auto-released when instances are destroyed, need to be done explicitly. I wish (cheaper) IPv6 support would be available, for lots of experimenting I don't need a public expensive IPv4 addr...
ersoft 11y ago
I have a running server at online.net (small personal tier, 8 core, 8gb RAM, 120gb ssd) [1] for 20euros/m running a CI server. I've spinned up a scaleway server and ping from online.net to scaleway or reverse is under 1ms (0.5-0.8ms) Also, they are offering VPC by default, the nodes seem to have only one network interface which defaults to private network, and external traffic is routed to private network with specific firewall rules. Also, they are offering ip failover, I think you can attach or move external ips at runtime between servers without configuring anything on the nodes (just from API). For online.net I know they are offering DDOS protection for higher priced servers, I'm now sure if they are supporting this for scaleway, but you can always reverse proxy from online.net server to scaleway to achieve horizontal scalability if this is an issue. [1] http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc
- _delirium 11y ago
  Regarding DDoS protection, if you scroll down on the Scaleway pricing page, there's an addon "Premium bandwidth with full DDoS protection" for €0.02/GB.

sgentle 11y ago

By the look of it they use the same DCs (Iliad DC2 & DC3): https://www.scaleway.com/faq/general/ https://www.scaleway.com/faq/general/

cuonic 11y ago

Scaleway servers are hosted in Online.net's DC2, you can get dedicated servers in the same DC, or in another one of their DCs which are all directly linked to one another.

jo909 11y ago

You are correct that you maybe can combine that with dedicated servers from online.net, but managing that might be a headache. Scaleway presents itself as a cloud service after all, where easy/automated management, quick scaling, rapid deployment etc is an important part of the equation. Good point that they seem to be missing multiple availability zones. A lot can be forgiven at that price.

weddpros 11y ago
It looks pretty clean to me to have dedicated intel servers with lots of memory and local disks for DBs, and workers that can be easily started with an API! We are currently running on online's dedicated intel servers (among others), but we've kept an eye on their ARM offering...

conorgdaly 11y ago

speaking of online.net, they currently have a banner ad front and center on their homepage for scaleway which says: "Run up to 10 bare metal SSD cloud server for free" [1] Clicking through just lands me on the scaleway homepage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Clicking around their site and couldn't see any mention of it. [1] http://www.online.net/img/carousel/cloud.jpg http://www.online.net/img/carousel/cloud.jpg screengrab: http://imgur.com/cuvZlgb http://imgur.com/cuvZlgb

cuonic 11y ago
Scaleway offer the first month for free, and the maximum amount of servers you can have running during the free trial is limited to 10, to benefit just signup on https://www.scaleway.com https://www.scaleway.com
osivertsson 11y ago
They've had this deal for some time, just sign up and they won't charge for max 10 c1's the first month. They will however charge for IPs, and they are not auto-released when instances are destroyed, need to be done explicitly. I wish (cheaper) IPv6 support would be available, for lots of experimenting I don't need a public expensive IPv4 addr...

ersoft 11y ago

I have a running server at online.net (small personal tier, 8 core, 8gb RAM, 120gb ssd) [1] for 20euros/m running a CI server. I've spinned up a scaleway server and ping from online.net to scaleway or reverse is under 1ms (0.5-0.8ms) Also, they are offering VPC by default, the nodes seem to have only one network interface which defaults to private network, and external traffic is routed to private network with specific firewall rules. Also, they are offering ip failover, I think you can attach or move external ips at runtime between servers without configuring anything on the nodes (just from API). For online.net I know they are offering DDOS protection for higher priced servers, I'm now sure if they are supporting this for scaleway, but you can always reverse proxy from online.net server to scaleway to achieve horizontal scalability if this is an issue. [1] http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc

_delirium 11y ago
Regarding DDoS protection, if you scroll down on the Scaleway pricing page, there's an addon "Premium bandwidth with full DDoS protection" for €0.02/GB.