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This makes them very similar in price to Digital Ocean, even slightly cheaper. I wonder what the performance comparison would be between their equivalent tiers.

by lux 11y ago

This makes them very similar in price to Digital Ocean, even slightly cheaper. I wonder what the performance comparison would be between their equivalent tiers... Their S3-compatible object storage is also quite appealing. Being in North America though, I'd love if they had a data centre option here too.

jl6 11y ago
Looks like you get a lot more memory than on the cheapest Digital Ocean droplet (2gb vs 512mb), and more storage too (50gb vs 20gb).
voltagex_ 11y ago
It's 180ms from a residential Canadian connection so I'd imagine it's similar from some parts of the US. Expecting ~300ms from my Australian ADSL connection (compared to ~190ms to an LA based DigitalOcean instance). vpsbench on Scaleway: CPU model: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) Number of cores: 4 CPU frequency: MHz Total amount of RAM: 2022 MB Total amount of swap: 0 MB System uptime: 10 min, I/O speed: 99.6 MB/s Bzip 25MB: 32.62s Download 100MB file: 70.5MB/s Small DO instance: CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz Number of cores: 1 CPU frequency: 2299.998 MHz Total amount of RAM: 494 MB Total amount of swap: 1023 MB System uptime: 40 days, 11:26, I/O speed: 445 MB/s Bzip 25MB: 8.76s Download 100MB file: 25.8MB/s
- akkartik 11y ago
  Wait, what's the CPU frequency on Scaleway? I just created a test instance with them and ran an open source project of mine. It runs just as fast as anywhere else, but compiling it takes 5 times as long. Investigating further to see if it's just something about my (weird) project. Edit: ah pella posted a comment at the same time as me with details on just how slow the ARM CPU is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10161307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10161307. The benchmarks linked there are 15x slower on single-threaded workloads.
  - fapjacks 11y ago
    Ouch! That is a very big deal.
  - Marazan 11y ago
    One thing with those benchmarks: Amon's piece is back when Scaleway was way more expensive. Amon says that he started a DigitalOcean Droplet with similar specs to the Scaleway box. The Scaleway box has 2GB of memeory and 4 cores. The first Digital Ocean box with more than 1 core and 2GB of memory is $20 a month. That's 6 times more expensive than Scaleway! It would be interesting to see what the benchmarks would be like on the price competitive Digital Ocean offering (single core, 512MB memory, 20GB Hard disk)
    - akkartik 11y ago
      I just tried it and got a 20x difference. Scaleway, using one of four 1332 bogomips processors and 2GB RAM (~$3.30/mo): Test execution summary: total time: 685.4730s total number of events: 10000 total time taken by event execution: 685.4637 per-request statistics: min: 68.52ms avg: 68.55ms max: 75.46ms approx. 95 percentile: 68.58ms Digital Ocean, using the sole 4600 bogomips processor and 512MB RAM ($5/mo): Test execution summary: total time: 34.9343s total number of events: 10000 total time taken by event execution: 34.9257 per-request statistics: min: 2.88ms avg: 3.49ms max: 8.00ms approx. 95 percentile: 3.68ms Commandline: $ sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run
tomjen3 11y ago
They seem to provide much more memory at a slightly cheaper price, but given that it is arm I am not sure I care - can you run Ruby, Python and (Oracle) JVM? I really just wanted a cheap server for Minecraft.
- speakeron 11y ago
  I just ran up a Debian Wheezy instance and put Java 8 on it (jdk-8u60-linux-arm32-vfp-hflt.tar.gz from Oracle). It runs fine.
pella 11y ago
benchmark : "Scaleway vs DigitalOcean and deploying web apps on an ARM server" ( By Martin Rusev on 28.05.2015 ) "In all my tests, the performance of their servers was slower compared to DigitalOcean, but this could be because they are using Network drivers(LSSD) and a 32bit ARM architecture(armv7l)" https://www.amon.cx/blog/scaleway-vs-digitalocean-and-deploying-webapps-on-arm/ https://www.amon.cx/blog/scaleway-vs-digitalocean-and-deploy...
- pella 11y ago
  FAQ: https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ "How does the SSD storage perform? SSD drives provide excellent performances with a really low latency. They perform especially well with random access patterns. Our SSD storage provide an average latency of 550 μs (550 microseconds) when a traditional rotating drive has a latency of several miliseconds. We provide 2000 IOPS (an IO is a 4K random read or write access) per 50GB chunk you buy. It means that if you buy a 150GB volume (3 chunks), you will get about 6000 IOPS (3x2000). To enjoy the performance of your volume, your application needs to use parallel IO. The total bandwidth of your volumes is limited to 120MB/s by the network link."

by lux 11y ago

jl6 11y ago

Looks like you get a lot more memory than on the cheapest Digital Ocean droplet (2gb vs 512mb), and more storage too (50gb vs 20gb).

voltagex_ 11y ago

It's 180ms from a residential Canadian connection so I'd imagine it's similar from some parts of the US. Expecting ~300ms from my Australian ADSL connection (compared to ~190ms to an LA based DigitalOcean instance). vpsbench on Scaleway: CPU model: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) Number of cores: 4 CPU frequency: MHz Total amount of RAM: 2022 MB Total amount of swap: 0 MB System uptime: 10 min, I/O speed: 99.6 MB/s Bzip 25MB: 32.62s Download 100MB file: 70.5MB/s Small DO instance: CPU model: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz Number of cores: 1 CPU frequency: 2299.998 MHz Total amount of RAM: 494 MB Total amount of swap: 1023 MB System uptime: 40 days, 11:26, I/O speed: 445 MB/s Bzip 25MB: 8.76s Download 100MB file: 25.8MB/s

akkartik 11y ago
Wait, what's the CPU frequency on Scaleway? I just created a test instance with them and ran an open source project of mine. It runs just as fast as anywhere else, but compiling it takes 5 times as long. Investigating further to see if it's just something about my (weird) project. Edit: ah pella posted a comment at the same time as me with details on just how slow the ARM CPU is: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10161307 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10161307. The benchmarks linked there are 15x slower on single-threaded workloads.
- fapjacks 11y ago
  Ouch! That is a very big deal.
- Marazan 11y ago
  One thing with those benchmarks: Amon's piece is back when Scaleway was way more expensive. Amon says that he started a DigitalOcean Droplet with similar specs to the Scaleway box. The Scaleway box has 2GB of memeory and 4 cores. The first Digital Ocean box with more than 1 core and 2GB of memory is $20 a month. That's 6 times more expensive than Scaleway! It would be interesting to see what the benchmarks would be like on the price competitive Digital Ocean offering (single core, 512MB memory, 20GB Hard disk)
  - akkartik 11y ago
    I just tried it and got a 20x difference. Scaleway, using one of four 1332 bogomips processors and 2GB RAM (~$3.30/mo): Test execution summary: total time: 685.4730s total number of events: 10000 total time taken by event execution: 685.4637 per-request statistics: min: 68.52ms avg: 68.55ms max: 75.46ms approx. 95 percentile: 68.58ms Digital Ocean, using the sole 4600 bogomips processor and 512MB RAM ($5/mo): Test execution summary: total time: 34.9343s total number of events: 10000 total time taken by event execution: 34.9257 per-request statistics: min: 2.88ms avg: 3.49ms max: 8.00ms approx. 95 percentile: 3.68ms Commandline: $ sysbench --test=cpu --cpu-max-prime=20000 run

tomjen3 11y ago

They seem to provide much more memory at a slightly cheaper price, but given that it is arm I am not sure I care - can you run Ruby, Python and (Oracle) JVM? I really just wanted a cheap server for Minecraft.

speakeron 11y ago
I just ran up a Debian Wheezy instance and put Java 8 on it (jdk-8u60-linux-arm32-vfp-hflt.tar.gz from Oracle). It runs fine.

pella 11y ago

benchmark : "Scaleway vs DigitalOcean and deploying web apps on an ARM server" ( By Martin Rusev on 28.05.2015 ) "In all my tests, the performance of their servers was slower compared to DigitalOcean, but this could be because they are using Network drivers(LSSD) and a 32bit ARM architecture(armv7l)" https://www.amon.cx/blog/scaleway-vs-digitalocean-and-deploying-webapps-on-arm/ https://www.amon.cx/blog/scaleway-vs-digitalocean-and-deploy...

pella 11y ago
FAQ: https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server/ "How does the SSD storage perform? SSD drives provide excellent performances with a really low latency. They perform especially well with random access patterns. Our SSD storage provide an average latency of 550 μs (550 microseconds) when a traditional rotating drive has a latency of several miliseconds. We provide 2000 IOPS (an IO is a 4K random read or write access) per 50GB chunk you buy. It means that if you buy a 150GB volume (3 chunks), you will get about 6000 IOPS (3x2000). To enjoy the performance of your volume, your application needs to use parallel IO. The total bandwidth of your volumes is limited to 120MB/s by the network link."