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This meme got old faster than I expected. I am the only one that is aware of symbiosis?

Super_Jambo 11y ago
Well it doesn't seem inaccurate to suggest that livestock has a symbiotic relationship with humans. Yes we do slaughter them for food but think of the benefits during the cows life!
- reitanqild 11y ago
  I give you points for that. Still arguing that life in Googles and lately Microsofts barn is quite comfortable and a whole lot a safer than outside because those companies has a huge interest on securing their users
  - EGreg 11y ago
    Security is one of the hardest things to decentralize. Would you rather trust Google or a rinkydink website with your data? They may not have even installed the latest patches of their open source software! Bitcoin decentralized money. Until now, social has not been decentralized effectively. Security is even harder, perhaps! Because it requires authentication but also a clear definition of guarantees, including availability! Perhaps your data could be stored on your computer and other replicas can be stored encrypted in the network, like freenet, but encrypted only by you. And your key would be a hash of your passphrase like "all horses are fine". If that guy's bitcoin key had been a result of a hashed passphrase, he wouldn't have lost $3 million in the garbage!
valarauca1 11y ago
>symbiosis It exists in 3 forms. 1) Both benefit (I.E.: mutualistic) 2) Only 1 benefits while the other has no clue of its usage (I.E.: commensalism). Vultures and Lions more or less, or hermit crabs and shell fish which are dead. 3) One actively benefits while the other is consumed by the active particpant (I.E.: Paracitism). :.:.: Your argument is that webscale logging is mutualistic. To an extent I'll agree. But this isn't the case. Google is mutualistic when using say GWallet, Docs, Mail, search etc. But Like/Plus buttons, as well as cookie sniffing isn't mutualistic. Its commensalism. I have no say if another organism uses what I leave behind, it doesn't directly effect me, but it benefits another organism.

Well it doesn't seem inaccurate to suggest that livestock has a symbiotic relationship with humans. Yes we do slaughter them for food but think of the benefits during the cows life!

reitanqild 11y ago
I give you points for that. Still arguing that life in Googles and lately Microsofts barn is quite comfortable and a whole lot a safer than outside because those companies has a huge interest on securing their users
- EGreg 11y ago
  Security is one of the hardest things to decentralize. Would you rather trust Google or a rinkydink website with your data? They may not have even installed the latest patches of their open source software! Bitcoin decentralized money. Until now, social has not been decentralized effectively. Security is even harder, perhaps! Because it requires authentication but also a clear definition of guarantees, including availability! Perhaps your data could be stored on your computer and other replicas can be stored encrypted in the network, like freenet, but encrypted only by you. And your key would be a hash of your passphrase like "all horses are fine". If that guy's bitcoin key had been a result of a hashed passphrase, he wouldn't have lost $3 million in the garbage!

valarauca1 11y ago

>symbiosis It exists in 3 forms. 1) Both benefit (I.E.: mutualistic) 2) Only 1 benefits while the other has no clue of its usage (I.E.: commensalism). Vultures and Lions more or less, or hermit crabs and shell fish which are dead. 3) One actively benefits while the other is consumed by the active particpant (I.E.: Paracitism). :.:.: Your argument is that webscale logging is mutualistic. To an extent I'll agree. But this isn't the case. Google is mutualistic when using say GWallet, Docs, Mail, search etc. But Like/Plus buttons, as well as cookie sniffing isn't mutualistic. Its commensalism. I have no say if another organism uses what I leave behind, it doesn't directly effect me, but it benefits another organism.