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It's great this article about Microsoft fighting for our privacy came put in the midst of the upset over Windows 10 phoning home.

by amgine 11y ago

saraha 11y ago
Microsoft aren't fighting for your rights here. They are fighting for market share. Not turning your data over to the FBI is now a product feature.
- Spivak 11y ago
  And god damn would I be willing to pay top dollar for such a feature. Do you hear me $every_tech_company? I'll be more than willing to put my market demand where my mouth is, give me client side encryption and/or self-hosted versions of your products and I'll happily write the check.
- nivla 11y ago
  Which in turn is protecting our privacy. The same can also be said about all other corporations: Google, Mozilla etc.
- deleted 11y ago
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- ihsw 11y ago
  I can't help but disagree -- they are caught between a rock and a hard place. Following the demands of one Federal government (Brazil) will result in them violating the laws of another (US). They are fighting for a unified legal regime that spans across all international boundaries.
Dirlewanger 11y ago
It's kind of a red herring to connect these two. The case here involves the government seizing data from a foreign data center. Were Microsoft to lose, this says to foreign customers that any time the US government wants some information stored overseas, they will get it. Obviously not good for business. Here in the states, Microsoft is going to collect everything it can about its customers and store it (and from there I imagine it eventually goes on in some form to the NSA).
- Spivak 11y ago
  So your argument is that people and organizations worried about having their data seized in the US is not bad for business? Most individuals didn't really care too much when the NSA documents were released but businesses sure did. Our security and privacy pitch to the management was bumped from, "would be nice someday" to "make it happen."

It's great this article about Microsoft fighting for our privacy came put in the midst of the upset over Windows 10 phoning home.

by amgine 11y ago

It's great this article about Microsoft fighting for our privacy came put in the midst of the upset over Windows 10 phoning home.

saraha 11y ago

Microsoft aren't fighting for your rights here. They are fighting for market share. Not turning your data over to the FBI is now a product feature.

Spivak 11y ago
And god damn would I be willing to pay top dollar for such a feature. Do you hear me $every_tech_company? I'll be more than willing to put my market demand where my mouth is, give me client side encryption and/or self-hosted versions of your products and I'll happily write the check.
nivla 11y ago
Which in turn is protecting our privacy. The same can also be said about all other corporations: Google, Mozilla etc.
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ihsw 11y ago
I can't help but disagree -- they are caught between a rock and a hard place. Following the demands of one Federal government (Brazil) will result in them violating the laws of another (US). They are fighting for a unified legal regime that spans across all international boundaries.

Dirlewanger 11y ago

It's kind of a red herring to connect these two. The case here involves the government seizing data from a foreign data center. Were Microsoft to lose, this says to foreign customers that any time the US government wants some information stored overseas, they will get it. Obviously not good for business. Here in the states, Microsoft is going to collect everything it can about its customers and store it (and from there I imagine it eventually goes on in some form to the NSA).

Spivak 11y ago
So your argument is that people and organizations worried about having their data seized in the US is not bad for business? Most individuals didn't really care too much when the NSA documents were released but businesses sure did. Our security and privacy pitch to the management was bumped from, "would be nice someday" to "make it happen."