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70k per year is hundreds per day. And then there's all the asylum seekers on top of that as well as the massive undocumented migrations across the southern bord

70k per year is hundreds per day. And then there's all the asylum seekers on top of that as well as the massive undocumented migrations across the southern border. If Germany were an island it would do the same kind of processing. There's nothing wrong with examining a person for a year before letting them settle in your country. The system has worked well thus far, why bust it up?

jacobush 11y ago
Actually it is quite bad for families to get their lives halted for such a long time. Problem is, they are not examined for a year. They are in queue for a year and then examined a week or something.
- cylinder 11y ago
  Background investigations are done as well. Again, I see no problem with it. I thought they were escaping a dangerous situation? It seems they are now in a safe third country, it's not a big deal they have to wait a year. I have many relatives who came to the US this way.
  - mrdodge 11y ago
    How do you do a background investigation on someone from Syria?
    - icebraining 11y ago
      Well, you can check with your foreign intelligence agencies to see if the person is suspected of any malicious behaviour or connections, and if the person has acquaintances already in the US, you can ask them questions.
  - jacobush 11y ago
    Of course it's better than the alternative and I am sure they are thankful. But a common scenario is, send a family rep, typically the father on the dangerous journey, a person most likely to succeed. This person then in the receiving country applies for permission to get his family over too. By the time everything is done, children may have been without their father for two years. Everyone is getting kind of traumatized from it. I am all for thorough background checks, but at least in my country, they take a long time not because of thorough checks, but because the system is seriously backlogged. Most of the time could be cut if we had more resources allocated to the task. Alas, reality, budgets and stuff gets in the way...
- ManFromUranus 11y ago
  I wonder if the queue could be caused by hundreds of refugees and asylum coming to the US every day...
celticninja 11y ago
It is 192 per day so not hundreds per day. Additionally many of these refugees are from Iraq and Afghanistan. The actions of the USA prompted many people to seek Asylum, so yeah you need to pick up your game in terms of how long these applications are taking to process.
thomasfoster96 11y ago
> There's nothing wrong with examining a person for a year before letting them settle in your country. The system has worked well thus far, why bust it up? The Australian government just got given yet another report telling them that this attitude is dangerous. Most estimates from reviews of Australia's current system (intake is in the tens of thousands, however arrivals by boat are processed offshore in Nauru or PNG) is that the timeframe from someone seeking assylum to being declined/accepted needs to be about three months or less - any longer and mental health takes a serious toll and children end up being behind in education.
- cylinder 11y ago
  That's because they are being kept in internment camps in third-world islands. Not quite the same thing as waiting in Vienna.
davidw 11y ago
> The system has worked well Has it? Could it have been working much better for all parties? I think that is distinctly possible.

jacobush 11y ago

Actually it is quite bad for families to get their lives halted for such a long time. Problem is, they are not examined for a year. They are in queue for a year and then examined a week or something.

cylinder 11y ago
Background investigations are done as well. Again, I see no problem with it. I thought they were escaping a dangerous situation? It seems they are now in a safe third country, it's not a big deal they have to wait a year. I have many relatives who came to the US this way.
- mrdodge 11y ago
  How do you do a background investigation on someone from Syria?
  - icebraining 11y ago
    Well, you can check with your foreign intelligence agencies to see if the person is suspected of any malicious behaviour or connections, and if the person has acquaintances already in the US, you can ask them questions.
- jacobush 11y ago
  Of course it's better than the alternative and I am sure they are thankful. But a common scenario is, send a family rep, typically the father on the dangerous journey, a person most likely to succeed. This person then in the receiving country applies for permission to get his family over too. By the time everything is done, children may have been without their father for two years. Everyone is getting kind of traumatized from it. I am all for thorough background checks, but at least in my country, they take a long time not because of thorough checks, but because the system is seriously backlogged. Most of the time could be cut if we had more resources allocated to the task. Alas, reality, budgets and stuff gets in the way...
ManFromUranus 11y ago
I wonder if the queue could be caused by hundreds of refugees and asylum coming to the US every day...

celticninja 11y ago

It is 192 per day so not hundreds per day. Additionally many of these refugees are from Iraq and Afghanistan. The actions of the USA prompted many people to seek Asylum, so yeah you need to pick up your game in terms of how long these applications are taking to process.

thomasfoster96 11y ago

> There's nothing wrong with examining a person for a year before letting them settle in your country. The system has worked well thus far, why bust it up? The Australian government just got given yet another report telling them that this attitude is dangerous. Most estimates from reviews of Australia's current system (intake is in the tens of thousands, however arrivals by boat are processed offshore in Nauru or PNG) is that the timeframe from someone seeking assylum to being declined/accepted needs to be about three months or less - any longer and mental health takes a serious toll and children end up being behind in education.

cylinder 11y ago
That's because they are being kept in internment camps in third-world islands. Not quite the same thing as waiting in Vienna.

davidw 11y ago

> The system has worked well Has it? Could it have been working much better for all parties? I think that is distinctly possible.