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Relevant: https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552

by zorpner 11y ago

prawn 11y ago
Also somewhat relevant: https://twitter.com/lutherlowe/status/638843261860343808 https://twitter.com/lutherlowe/status/638843261860343808
gopowerranger 11y ago
Read all of that tweet and you'll find out how irrelevant it is.
kbenson 11y ago
I fail to see how providing a short except that is fully attributed and links back to the original source is a problem. If anything, it steers even more traffic to wikipedia.
- choppaface 11y ago
  knowledge graph indeed steers traffic away from Wikipedia: http://searchengineland.com/businesses-knowledge-graph-dominating-search-results-215520 http://searchengineland.com/businesses-knowledge-graph-domin... luckily the foundation hasn't seen a negative impact on donations.
  - kbenson 11y ago
    I suspect that's because for the most part it just siphons off the traffic that would have mostly been a waste to serve anyway, being that they were either looking for such a small bit of information to be encapsulated in the excerpt, or they determined they were looking for something else, they would be hard to monetize. Then again, I could be wrong or there could be usefulness to users hitting the end site that isn't directly monetizable (brand awareness). I wonder what percentage of the knowledge graph result excerpts are full entries, and don't trail off indicating more can be found on the source site.
    - pestaa 11y ago
      Not saying you're wrong, but one strength of Wikipedia is the density of internal links, which even the summaries are full of. Perhaps some users would explore a topic if they saw their many options to do so. This is just pure speculation, though.
      - JupiterMoon 11y ago
        I think by now most people in the English speaking world know that if they want to start getting more depth on a topic then Wikipedia is a decent place to start. However, sometime you just want a quick summary/single fact.
- coolbeans2016 11y ago
  Is this the "gay" dev forum? No offense, but all of you are bitching like a bunch of women.... or more like faggots.

Relevant: https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552

by zorpner 11y ago

Relevant: https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552 https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/439125570115223552

prawn 11y ago

Also somewhat relevant: https://twitter.com/lutherlowe/status/638843261860343808 https://twitter.com/lutherlowe/status/638843261860343808

gopowerranger 11y ago

Read all of that tweet and you'll find out how irrelevant it is.

kbenson 11y ago

I fail to see how providing a short except that is fully attributed and links back to the original source is a problem. If anything, it steers even more traffic to wikipedia.

choppaface 11y ago
knowledge graph indeed steers traffic away from Wikipedia: http://searchengineland.com/businesses-knowledge-graph-dominating-search-results-215520 http://searchengineland.com/businesses-knowledge-graph-domin... luckily the foundation hasn't seen a negative impact on donations.
- kbenson 11y ago
  I suspect that's because for the most part it just siphons off the traffic that would have mostly been a waste to serve anyway, being that they were either looking for such a small bit of information to be encapsulated in the excerpt, or they determined they were looking for something else, they would be hard to monetize. Then again, I could be wrong or there could be usefulness to users hitting the end site that isn't directly monetizable (brand awareness). I wonder what percentage of the knowledge graph result excerpts are full entries, and don't trail off indicating more can be found on the source site.
  - pestaa 11y ago
    Not saying you're wrong, but one strength of Wikipedia is the density of internal links, which even the summaries are full of. Perhaps some users would explore a topic if they saw their many options to do so. This is just pure speculation, though.
    - JupiterMoon 11y ago
      I think by now most people in the English speaking world know that if they want to start getting more depth on a topic then Wikipedia is a decent place to start. However, sometime you just want a quick summary/single fact.
coolbeans2016 11y ago
Is this the "gay" dev forum? No offense, but all of you are bitching like a bunch of women.... or more like faggots.