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Well, for me, cities are more than just a proximal place to jobs. They have a culture, part of which is retirees. Additionally, I think shipping off retirees

Well, for me, cities are more than just a proximal place to jobs. They have a culture, part of which is retirees. Additionally, I think shipping off retirees (or just the poor ones, it seems) would be harsh for them.

mc32 11y ago
I understand your take. And I understand people can have some attachment, but I think those emotions are temporary and can be addressed by making these alternative places attractive places --places built with retirees in mind. Lots of retirees from cold states move hundreds of miles to warmer climates --there may be some thought to attachment, but mostly they look forward to places made to accommodate them. Places where there are others just like them. An alternative which happens in places with declining populations, is retirees dying in their homes, alone, to be discovered days or months after. The poor are another separate issue. They need to be close to jobs or at least have a way to get to jobs easily. When I was poor, I didn't care to live in a cachet neighborhood, I just needed to be able to get to my job with reasonable public transit and I wanted to feel the area was safe. Of course, given the alternative, I'd want to rent a bungalow next to the beach for cheap, but it's not a necessity and it's not a necessity to live next to one's job. That said, I would love to see more mixed use zoning.
- kelnos 11y ago
  Places where there are others just like them. Gross. I get that some people get to places in their lives where they don't want to deal with diversity, but I don't want cities to turn into places like that. Retirees (those who do want to stay, and don't want to live in a retirement community) are a part of that diversity. Shipping anyone off involuntarily (or even semi-involuntarily, in the case of ridiculous housing cost swings) is completely unacceptable to me.
  - mc32 11y ago
    When you are old your values change and you're just looking for convenience and people in the same boat. That does not mean they want to not have ethnic diversity they just don't want to deal with non 'generians so much. They still want some younger people, but want the understanding of older people around them --no, they also don't want to be depressed by those near the end, but I'm not talking that stage home. And I don't think homogeneity is gross. Do you think Nigerians feel gross, or do you think the Japanese feel gross? It's neither better nor worse then heterogeneity.

mc32 11y ago

I understand your take. And I understand people can have some attachment, but I think those emotions are temporary and can be addressed by making these alternative places attractive places --places built with retirees in mind. Lots of retirees from cold states move hundreds of miles to warmer climates --there may be some thought to attachment, but mostly they look forward to places made to accommodate them. Places where there are others just like them. An alternative which happens in places with declining populations, is retirees dying in their homes, alone, to be discovered days or months after. The poor are another separate issue. They need to be close to jobs or at least have a way to get to jobs easily. When I was poor, I didn't care to live in a cachet neighborhood, I just needed to be able to get to my job with reasonable public transit and I wanted to feel the area was safe. Of course, given the alternative, I'd want to rent a bungalow next to the beach for cheap, but it's not a necessity and it's not a necessity to live next to one's job. That said, I would love to see more mixed use zoning.

kelnos 11y ago
Places where there are others just like them. Gross. I get that some people get to places in their lives where they don't want to deal with diversity, but I don't want cities to turn into places like that. Retirees (those who do want to stay, and don't want to live in a retirement community) are a part of that diversity. Shipping anyone off involuntarily (or even semi-involuntarily, in the case of ridiculous housing cost swings) is completely unacceptable to me.
- mc32 11y ago
  When you are old your values change and you're just looking for convenience and people in the same boat. That does not mean they want to not have ethnic diversity they just don't want to deal with non 'generians so much. They still want some younger people, but want the understanding of older people around them --no, they also don't want to be depressed by those near the end, but I'm not talking that stage home. And I don't think homogeneity is gross. Do you think Nigerians feel gross, or do you think the Japanese feel gross? It's neither better nor worse then heterogeneity.