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> Well, it wasn’t a "this device is shit"... That's not how I interpreted it. ;) The situation in Germany appears to be very different than the situation in t

> Well, it wasn’t a "this device is shit"... That's not how I interpreted it. ;) The situation in Germany appears to be very different than the situation in the US. If folks get a router and/or AP from their ISP it's almost always a flaky pile of shit. If this doesn't become yet another abandoned project with in a year (or vaguely-rubber-stamp compliance effort inside of two), the Google folks will likely put a sizeable chunk of R&D effort into ensuring that they push the state of residential wireless APs forward. As it stands now, there are ALL SORTS of really cool things that WiFi APs should do, but just fucking don't for reasons that are beyond my comprehension.

kuschku 11y ago
Well, except for the Fritz!Box, all other routers we get here are also shit. But the Fritz!Box is something special xD AVM, originally a huge advertising company on German BTX (a kinda internet before the internet), became large with modems and home phones, so their routers are an extension of that. And, well, as all devices are assembled in Germany, the price tag is usually accepted, as you get the best of the best out of it – the routers are prolly gonna last a lifetime. But yeah, Google OnHub might have some potential, but if the ISPs in the US didn’t give their users a Fritz!Box in the past decade, they won’t give them an OnHub either. And only for Google Fiber or self-bought seems pretty... wasteful.
- simoncion 11y ago
  > And only for Google Fiber or self-bought seems pretty... wasteful. Eh? If your current wireless router either sucks or dies, then you're in the market for a new one. When it comes to networking gear, it pays to pay for quality. Not everyone knows that, but many people do. > ...if the ISPs in the US didn’t give their users a Fritz!Box... It seems that the only people I hear talking about Fritz!Boxes are Germans. I've known many techies with many strange devices, but I've never seen a Fritz!Box in person. Their fame might be restricted to Germany and maybe neighboring countries. :)

kuschku 11y ago

Well, except for the Fritz!Box, all other routers we get here are also shit. But the Fritz!Box is something special xD AVM, originally a huge advertising company on German BTX (a kinda internet before the internet), became large with modems and home phones, so their routers are an extension of that. And, well, as all devices are assembled in Germany, the price tag is usually accepted, as you get the best of the best out of it – the routers are prolly gonna last a lifetime. But yeah, Google OnHub might have some potential, but if the ISPs in the US didn’t give their users a Fritz!Box in the past decade, they won’t give them an OnHub either. And only for Google Fiber or self-bought seems pretty... wasteful.

simoncion 11y ago
> And only for Google Fiber or self-bought seems pretty... wasteful. Eh? If your current wireless router either sucks or dies, then you're in the market for a new one. When it comes to networking gear, it pays to pay for quality. Not everyone knows that, but many people do. > ...if the ISPs in the US didn’t give their users a Fritz!Box... It seems that the only people I hear talking about Fritz!Boxes are Germans. I've known many techies with many strange devices, but I've never seen a Fritz!Box in person. Their fame might be restricted to Germany and maybe neighboring countries. :)