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I wish Swedish schools would stop basing all education on Y and reintroduce X as the main driver. For the last 15 years (Since Y became popular) the school sys

I wish Swedish schools would stop basing all education on Y and reintroduce X as the main driver. For the last 15 years (Since Y became popular) the school system has done nothing but deliver absolutely worthless human beings.

anon4 11y ago
Can you elaborate on that?
- jkyle 11y ago
  Most Swedish educational experts feel the stark decline the OP is speaking of is a direct result of decentralization and the funneling of public funds into private, for profit, institutions. [1] Generally, conservative elements in Sweden discount educational experts assessment saying that kids are allowed to be 'too free' in the class (e.g. blaming it on the declining moral fiber of children or immigrants or what not). It served as a lab for what proponents of the voucher system in the U.S. are looking to do. 1. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/10/sweden-schools-crisis-political-failure-education http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/10/sweden-schools-...
  - Numberwang 11y ago
    No need to politicize it. I think both decentralization and the banishment of X for the benefit of Y have ruined the schools. Mostly I'm upset about them making everything social. Not allowing humans to wander amongst ideas on their own uninterruptedly and make their own connections have created shallow and empty workers. I wish what A.C. Grayling is doing would be taken more seriously before it is too late.
    - digi_owl 11y ago
      > Not allowing humans to wander amongst ideas on their own uninterruptedly and make their own connections have created shallow and empty workers. Huh, is that not exactly what Y is about? As for turning everything social, welcome to the modern work environment. If you can do social you are out of a job, as the non-social jobs have been automated away.
    - jkyle 11y ago
      > No need to politicize it. I was summarizing the linked reference which covered the politicized nature of the debate and quoted positions from both parties.
simplify 11y ago
I find this fascinating, could you elaborate?
dpc_pw 11y ago
Didn't Finland do the exact opposite, with opposite results? That's interesting given that this countries are neighbours.
- digi_owl 11y ago
  Similarly Norway is heading increasingly towards X (longer days, more testing, etc etc etc) and things have largely become a mess.

anon4 11y ago

Can you elaborate on that?

jkyle 11y ago
Most Swedish educational experts feel the stark decline the OP is speaking of is a direct result of decentralization and the funneling of public funds into private, for profit, institutions. [1] Generally, conservative elements in Sweden discount educational experts assessment saying that kids are allowed to be 'too free' in the class (e.g. blaming it on the declining moral fiber of children or immigrants or what not). It served as a lab for what proponents of the voucher system in the U.S. are looking to do. 1. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/10/sweden-schools-crisis-political-failure-education http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/10/sweden-schools-...
- Numberwang 11y ago
  No need to politicize it. I think both decentralization and the banishment of X for the benefit of Y have ruined the schools. Mostly I'm upset about them making everything social. Not allowing humans to wander amongst ideas on their own uninterruptedly and make their own connections have created shallow and empty workers. I wish what A.C. Grayling is doing would be taken more seriously before it is too late.
  - digi_owl 11y ago
    > Not allowing humans to wander amongst ideas on their own uninterruptedly and make their own connections have created shallow and empty workers. Huh, is that not exactly what Y is about? As for turning everything social, welcome to the modern work environment. If you can do social you are out of a job, as the non-social jobs have been automated away.
  - jkyle 11y ago
    > No need to politicize it. I was summarizing the linked reference which covered the politicized nature of the debate and quoted positions from both parties.

simplify 11y ago

I find this fascinating, could you elaborate?

dpc_pw 11y ago

Didn't Finland do the exact opposite, with opposite results? That's interesting given that this countries are neighbours.

digi_owl 11y ago
Similarly Norway is heading increasingly towards X (longer days, more testing, etc etc etc) and things have largely become a mess.