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In terms of ruining lives I think alcohol does more damage than all illegal and prescription drug abuse combined. WHO (World Health organization) stated that 2

by baldfat 11y ago

In terms of ruining lives I think alcohol does more damage than all illegal and prescription drug abuse combined. WHO (World Health organization) stated that 25% of all deaths for 20-35 year olds is directly alcohol related. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs349/en/ http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs349/en/

bro-stick 11y ago
Overeating food addiction is far, far worse because of dramatically-reduced lifespan from many forms of cancer, chronic heart diseases and the lost of limbs and eyesight from Type II diabetes. A neighbor of my childhood home whom worked at Spectra Physics died within six months of uncontrolled diabetes. I also lost a great uncle whom went the same way more recently within about 10 months. In northern Canada and American Indian reservations, that might be true. Some places, it's heroin and others, it's meth, paint thinner or glue. (Police, nurses and social workers typically know what's going around.) From a health perspective, most doctors would probably argue smoking. Philip Morris International is targeting Asian countries where they are as ubiquitous in most realms of life as was soda advertisements to kids in schools. Alcohol abuse culture is prevalent in military, universities and sales/management. I think the impact varies with location and social circles, and is hard to qualtitatively measure (apart from lives, hospital visits/bills, lost wages) because it's very qualitative.
- armandososa 11y ago
  But driving under the influence of five Whoppers and fries is not as dangerous.
  - leesalminen 11y ago
    Driving whilst consuming five Whoopers and fries may be.
- baldfat 11y ago
  Over eating absolutely is a HUGE health issue, but it is oranges and apples. Food is required for life. Smoking, alcohol and drugs is non-essential and is self induced harm to the body for self-perceived emotional benefit. (Not to rule out emotional eating but...)
  - xiaoma 11y ago
    Perhaps sugar is a better comparison. It's only in the past few centuries that most humans have had access to sugarcane, it's definitely not required for survival and it's behind many many cases of fatty liver disease as well as diabetes, cancer and a host of issues stemming from metabolic disease.
    - baldfat 11y ago
      Refined sugar is but almost everything we eat is sugar aka carbohydrates. Eating bread is the same as drink sugar to the body some would even say worst and we have been eating break since before written history. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-really-worth-not-eating-bread-pasta-and-other-carbs/2015/02/06/cd6d1c38-89e2-11e4-a085-34e9b9f09a58_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-...
      - xiaoma 11y ago
        This is just batty. Bread doesn't taste at all like sugar does, it doesn't metabolize at the same rate, and to the best of my knowledge we aren't using it as an additive to flavor nearly every other food we eat.
        baldfat 11y ago
        Scientifically speaking a atom is a atom. If you get so many atoms of the same type in your body it isn't batty it is just chemistry. https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/carbhyd.htm https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/car... Here is a anti-sugar post presenting the idea that 2 slices of bread has a HUGE impact on the body similar to soda. http://www.vanadia.com/stopbeingsweet/comments/soda-wheat-bread/ http://www.vanadia.com/stopbeingsweet/comments/soda-wheat-br...
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raverbashing 11y ago
Lies, damned lies and statistics 20-35 years old rarely die "naturally". Usually through suicide, homicide, car crashes, overdose, etc So, 25% of deaths in a group that naturally concentrates (one of) the least amount of deaths throughout age groups does not look strange Now, I find it funny how some people want to exaggerate alcohol damage while ignoring several other factors (and other equally harmful things like fast-food) Trying to solve alcohol abuse with DARE mentality is going to be equally effective (that is, not at all)
- baldfat 11y ago
  Continue reading my link for World Health Organization stats. 5.9% of all deaths world wide directly due to self inflicted alcohol abuse. in addition 5.1 of our disease burden is directly linked to alcohol use (i.e. Liver disease etc.). Many mental health disorders are directly linked to alcohol abuse.
  - msandford 11y ago
    Maybe world governments should focus on not being so overbearing and thus driving their citizens to drinking...
    - msandford 11y ago
      Right, because the various drug prohibitions have worked so well, and they're definitely not causing people who want to be law abiding citizens to drink instead of using various recreational drugs.
      - ant6n 11y ago
        I think the above poster is an ultra-libertarian who's saying the reason for people drinking is that government exists, and for example imposes taxes.
        msandford 11y ago

by baldfat 11y ago

bro-stick 11y ago

Overeating food addiction is far, far worse because of dramatically-reduced lifespan from many forms of cancer, chronic heart diseases and the lost of limbs and eyesight from Type II diabetes. A neighbor of my childhood home whom worked at Spectra Physics died within six months of uncontrolled diabetes. I also lost a great uncle whom went the same way more recently within about 10 months. In northern Canada and American Indian reservations, that might be true. Some places, it's heroin and others, it's meth, paint thinner or glue. (Police, nurses and social workers typically know what's going around.) From a health perspective, most doctors would probably argue smoking. Philip Morris International is targeting Asian countries where they are as ubiquitous in most realms of life as was soda advertisements to kids in schools. Alcohol abuse culture is prevalent in military, universities and sales/management. I think the impact varies with location and social circles, and is hard to qualtitatively measure (apart from lives, hospital visits/bills, lost wages) because it's very qualitative.

armandososa 11y ago
But driving under the influence of five Whoppers and fries is not as dangerous.
- leesalminen 11y ago
  Driving whilst consuming five Whoopers and fries may be.
baldfat 11y ago
Over eating absolutely is a HUGE health issue, but it is oranges and apples. Food is required for life. Smoking, alcohol and drugs is non-essential and is self induced harm to the body for self-perceived emotional benefit. (Not to rule out emotional eating but...)
- xiaoma 11y ago
  Perhaps sugar is a better comparison. It's only in the past few centuries that most humans have had access to sugarcane, it's definitely not required for survival and it's behind many many cases of fatty liver disease as well as diabetes, cancer and a host of issues stemming from metabolic disease.
  - baldfat 11y ago
    Refined sugar is but almost everything we eat is sugar aka carbohydrates. Eating bread is the same as drink sugar to the body some would even say worst and we have been eating break since before written history. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-really-worth-not-eating-bread-pasta-and-other-carbs/2015/02/06/cd6d1c38-89e2-11e4-a085-34e9b9f09a58_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/is-it-...
    - xiaoma 11y ago
      This is just batty. Bread doesn't taste at all like sugar does, it doesn't metabolize at the same rate, and to the best of my knowledge we aren't using it as an additive to flavor nearly every other food we eat.
      - baldfat 11y ago
        Scientifically speaking a atom is a atom. If you get so many atoms of the same type in your body it isn't batty it is just chemistry. https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/carbhyd.htm https://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/car... Here is a anti-sugar post presenting the idea that 2 slices of bread has a HUGE impact on the body similar to soda. http://www.vanadia.com/stopbeingsweet/comments/soda-wheat-bread/ http://www.vanadia.com/stopbeingsweet/comments/soda-wheat-br...

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raverbashing 11y ago

Lies, damned lies and statistics 20-35 years old rarely die "naturally". Usually through suicide, homicide, car crashes, overdose, etc So, 25% of deaths in a group that naturally concentrates (one of) the least amount of deaths throughout age groups does not look strange Now, I find it funny how some people want to exaggerate alcohol damage while ignoring several other factors (and other equally harmful things like fast-food) Trying to solve alcohol abuse with DARE mentality is going to be equally effective (that is, not at all)

baldfat 11y ago
Continue reading my link for World Health Organization stats. 5.9% of all deaths world wide directly due to self inflicted alcohol abuse. in addition 5.1 of our disease burden is directly linked to alcohol use (i.e. Liver disease etc.). Many mental health disorders are directly linked to alcohol abuse.
- msandford 11y ago
  Maybe world governments should focus on not being so overbearing and thus driving their citizens to drinking...
  - msandford 11y ago
    Right, because the various drug prohibitions have worked so well, and they're definitely not causing people who want to be law abiding citizens to drink instead of using various recreational drugs.
    - ant6n 11y ago
      I think the above poster is an ultra-libertarian who's saying the reason for people drinking is that government exists, and for example imposes taxes.
      - msandford 11y ago