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French Satirical fake news website Le Gorafi down, announcing “it's over”

25 points by carlchenet 11y ago

staticelf 11y ago
Don't really see how this is interesting for readers on HN?
- WhitneyLand 11y ago
  Probably because it's seen as a test of the will to free speech. Question: How many satirical commentators can be killed before their numbers drop precipitously due to fear?
  - sentenza 11y ago
    If that is the case, then it really doesn't belong to HN. In the background information it says that they closed down due to financial reasons. There is no free speech angle here. Reddit is currently being overrun by a wave "Islamists/Muslims/Refugees are destroying Europe" fearmongering. HN isn't reddit. This should not be here.
antimagic 11y ago
HN needs to keep the "Le" in Le Gorafi for the title - it's an anagram of Le Figaro - the most conservative of the mainstream newspapers here in France. Edit: For more information see here: http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2015/08/31/le-gorafi-fini-site-annonce-sa-fin_n_8063514.html http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2015/08/31/le-gorafi-fini-site-... Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.fr%2F2015%2F08%2F31%2Fle-gorafi-fini-site-annonce-sa-fin_n_8063514.html&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev... Summary: It may only be a marketing ploy - they're using a 302 temporary redirect instead of a 301 permanent re-direct, which some claim is for maintaining SEO...
- DanBC 11y ago
  Current title is 78 chars. "Le " is 3 chars, taking it over the 80 char limit. Which is a shame, because the anagram (at least, your explanation of it) does add to the story.
  - antimagic 11y ago
    Personally I would get rid of either "Satirical" or "fake" in that case - one of them is redundant...
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- dang 11y ago
  > HN needs to keep the "Le" in Le Gorafi for the title Thanks, fixed.
wsc981 11y ago
I expect Europe will face some huge troubles in the future, perhaps even a civil war. And these problems will be caused by mass immigration and multiculturalism. Many immigrants aren't interested into integrating with their host countries and in my country (The Netherlands) the immigrants also put a huge pressure on the welfare state, because of this the social cohesion is breaking down. In my opinion any country should have a leading culture and immigrants should aspire to adopt the leading culture, since I believe sharing a culture strengthens the social cohesion. The French secret service is already making preparations for what they call civil unrest: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11826862/Airlines-told-to-expect-French-911-as-Hollande-warns-of-more-Islamist-violence.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/1182... I will try to emigrate within the next 10 years or so.
- tinco 11y ago
  The Netherlands will see no such civil war. French fucked up with their intrgration policies, they are arrogant and elitist. And it has set them on a collision course with their poor, as it has done before. The Netherlands has no such problems that I'm aware of. Our welfare is in jeopardy because of people not dying, not jobless immigrants.
  - vegabook 11y ago
    > "people not dying" How inconvenient....
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    While not like the "ghetto's" in Paris where the cop's don't even enter the housing projects in Amsterdam that can be classified as such are becoming more and more frequent. Same goes for many other European countries, visit Malmo in Sweden (I had the "pleasure" a year and a half ago) it felt less safe than Detroit and parts of Baltimore. Not a single European country has done immigration well as it seems, the UK of all places probably did it's best and even it has it's share of problems. While there won't be a civil war under any possible scenario it will reach a flash point that might paint many countries black if not red again. Some of the rallies should scare any sensible person and I could really care less about various excuses like it's a vocal minority or they are just angry because X Y Z, I still remember the hate rally after the Danish cartoons in London and my GF verbally (and would be physically) assaulted because she had an Icelandic flag on her backpack and 5th century zealots don't understand geography (not that if she had a danish one it would've been better). Europe as a whole needs to rethink it's immigration policy and if they really want to integrate the immigrants, they are very politically correct to the point of insanity on the inside and probably the most racist people in the world in their homes. My GF brother lives in Norway with his family I've visit there 2-3 times a year with my GF and i see how the people speak once they get a glass or 2 into them, how they curse the immigrants and how now their worst nightmare isn't their kid getting addicted on drugs but rather converting to Islam. Her brother's friend almost went on a fritz when his 16 yr old kid stopped shaving because he thought he was converting they even planned an intervention and if that wouldn't worked they were contemplating trying to see if they can get him "checked out" (aka put away into a mental hospital to cure him). And the dutch aren't that much better only a couple of weeks ago while doing a project for ING my contact there told me they had to stop shuttle bus from the train station to the industrial park because all the Arabs and gypsies used ride them all the time so now they reimburse people for taxis. And that's hardly the only racist comment I've heard from people and from what i sense at least they are becoming more "bolder" about making those comments, 2-3 years ago they would only say something like that after really getting to know you now it's pretty common.
ableal 11y ago
Report by another French site: http://www.20minutes.fr/medias/1675731-20150831-gorafi-fini http://www.20minutes.fr/medias/1675731-20150831-gorafi-fini P.S. Quoted reply basically says they see no future in web publishing, and expect an internet bubble burst shortly. Which the reporting site interprets as a continuing joke.
thibaut_barrere 11y ago
I really enjoyed the Gorafi, sad to see them go :/ Another similar place if you enjoy such content: http://www.bilboquet-magazine.fr/ http://www.bilboquet-magazine.fr/
louhike 11y ago
I want it to be clear for every reader: Le Gorafi is an equivalent to The Onion. It is not a satirical newspapers as Charlie Hebdo, so please stop talking about the immigration.

25 points by carlchenet 11y ago

staticelf 11y ago

Don't really see how this is interesting for readers on HN?

WhitneyLand 11y ago
Probably because it's seen as a test of the will to free speech. Question: How many satirical commentators can be killed before their numbers drop precipitously due to fear?
- sentenza 11y ago
  If that is the case, then it really doesn't belong to HN. In the background information it says that they closed down due to financial reasons. There is no free speech angle here. Reddit is currently being overrun by a wave "Islamists/Muslims/Refugees are destroying Europe" fearmongering. HN isn't reddit. This should not be here.

antimagic 11y ago

HN needs to keep the "Le" in Le Gorafi for the title - it's an anagram of Le Figaro - the most conservative of the mainstream newspapers here in France. Edit: For more information see here: http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2015/08/31/le-gorafi-fini-site-annonce-sa-fin_n_8063514.html http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2015/08/31/le-gorafi-fini-site-... Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.fr%2F2015%2F08%2F31%2Fle-gorafi-fini-site-annonce-sa-fin_n_8063514.html&edit-text= https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev... Summary: It may only be a marketing ploy - they're using a 302 temporary redirect instead of a 301 permanent re-direct, which some claim is for maintaining SEO...

DanBC 11y ago
Current title is 78 chars. "Le " is 3 chars, taking it over the 80 char limit. Which is a shame, because the anagram (at least, your explanation of it) does add to the story.
- antimagic 11y ago
  Personally I would get rid of either "Satirical" or "fake" in that case - one of them is redundant...
  - deleted 11y ago
    [deleted]
dang 11y ago
> HN needs to keep the "Le" in Le Gorafi for the title Thanks, fixed.

wsc981 11y ago

I expect Europe will face some huge troubles in the future, perhaps even a civil war. And these problems will be caused by mass immigration and multiculturalism. Many immigrants aren't interested into integrating with their host countries and in my country (The Netherlands) the immigrants also put a huge pressure on the welfare state, because of this the social cohesion is breaking down. In my opinion any country should have a leading culture and immigrants should aspire to adopt the leading culture, since I believe sharing a culture strengthens the social cohesion. The French secret service is already making preparations for what they call civil unrest: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11826862/Airlines-told-to-expect-French-911-as-Hollande-warns-of-more-Islamist-violence.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/1182... I will try to emigrate within the next 10 years or so.

tinco 11y ago
The Netherlands will see no such civil war. French fucked up with their intrgration policies, they are arrogant and elitist. And it has set them on a collision course with their poor, as it has done before. The Netherlands has no such problems that I'm aware of. Our welfare is in jeopardy because of people not dying, not jobless immigrants.
- vegabook 11y ago
  > "people not dying" How inconvenient....
- dogma1138 11y ago
  While not like the "ghetto's" in Paris where the cop's don't even enter the housing projects in Amsterdam that can be classified as such are becoming more and more frequent. Same goes for many other European countries, visit Malmo in Sweden (I had the "pleasure" a year and a half ago) it felt less safe than Detroit and parts of Baltimore. Not a single European country has done immigration well as it seems, the UK of all places probably did it's best and even it has it's share of problems. While there won't be a civil war under any possible scenario it will reach a flash point that might paint many countries black if not red again. Some of the rallies should scare any sensible person and I could really care less about various excuses like it's a vocal minority or they are just angry because X Y Z, I still remember the hate rally after the Danish cartoons in London and my GF verbally (and would be physically) assaulted because she had an Icelandic flag on her backpack and 5th century zealots don't understand geography (not that if she had a danish one it would've been better). Europe as a whole needs to rethink it's immigration policy and if they really want to integrate the immigrants, they are very politically correct to the point of insanity on the inside and probably the most racist people in the world in their homes. My GF brother lives in Norway with his family I've visit there 2-3 times a year with my GF and i see how the people speak once they get a glass or 2 into them, how they curse the immigrants and how now their worst nightmare isn't their kid getting addicted on drugs but rather converting to Islam. Her brother's friend almost went on a fritz when his 16 yr old kid stopped shaving because he thought he was converting they even planned an intervention and if that wouldn't worked they were contemplating trying to see if they can get him "checked out" (aka put away into a mental hospital to cure him). And the dutch aren't that much better only a couple of weeks ago while doing a project for ING my contact there told me they had to stop shuttle bus from the train station to the industrial park because all the Arabs and gypsies used ride them all the time so now they reimburse people for taxis. And that's hardly the only racist comment I've heard from people and from what i sense at least they are becoming more "bolder" about making those comments, 2-3 years ago they would only say something like that after really getting to know you now it's pretty common.

ableal 11y ago

Report by another French site: http://www.20minutes.fr/medias/1675731-20150831-gorafi-fini http://www.20minutes.fr/medias/1675731-20150831-gorafi-fini P.S. Quoted reply basically says they see no future in web publishing, and expect an internet bubble burst shortly. Which the reporting site interprets as a continuing joke.

thibaut_barrere 11y ago

I really enjoyed the Gorafi, sad to see them go :/ Another similar place if you enjoy such content: http://www.bilboquet-magazine.fr/ http://www.bilboquet-magazine.fr/

louhike 11y ago

I want it to be clear for every reader: Le Gorafi is an equivalent to The Onion. It is not a satirical newspapers as Charlie Hebdo, so please stop talking about the immigration.