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Is US the only place that Evolution needs constant reinforcing?

by hohohmm 11y ago

palmer_eldritch 11y ago
Well, it's just a theory after all...
- wallzz 11y ago
  No it's a scientific fact now
  - mdpopescu 11y ago
    As opposed to what other kind of fact? :)
    - user_0001 11y ago
      Religious "fact" ;-)
- awjr 11y ago
  Not sure you understand what "scientific theory" actually implies. "A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory A theory is a proven truth until disproved ;)
  - palmer_eldritch 11y ago
    Oh, shi- I forgot: /sarcasm
    - antimagic 11y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law Tsk tsk, shame on you...
reustle 11y ago
Well, this article is from 2011. More so then than now, I believe.
smcl 11y ago
Tbh the sort of folks who don't believe in evolution are probably unlikely to be swayed by evidence. I think some of the religious arguments against evolution genuinely claim that fossil records used to support evolution are put on earth by God to test his believers. Not much you can say against that :-/ I've never seen this belief expressed in person (only on the net) so hopefully it isn't so prevalent
- opposite_moron 11y ago
  Possibly some believe this. But those who I have come across find macroevolution very hard to believe and have no qualms with small variations among "species". They say that there were different sets of creation which then something happened to one set(died out?) and another set was put in place. Also the fact that scientists admit themselves they have pretty much no idea how life first began. These are the two biggest issues of contention for most people. A few other criticisms I've heard from people: - How many times have scientists claimed to be certain about something with their "evidence" and then switched their position at another time? I know this is seen as a plus to many but it's not an invalid concern. - Science cannot nor does it claim to be something one can use to acquire certainty about anything. You can't really prove anything with the scientific method. It's based on observation and induction(not mathematical) which are inherently flawed. - From the most basic interactions people have with science is food and medicine. We've seen how "great" GMO's have been and how many medicines have harmed people and have been taken off the shelves. It's not strange for someone to go to 5 different doctors with one set of symptoms and get 5 different diagnoses each with a different solution. Before I'm attacked, I want to mention I am conveying what I've heard. Honestly, nobody will listen to you speak out of your emotions. A lot of people claim to be objective but then resort to name calling and exhibiting anger.
  - smcl 11y ago
    Interestingly the first sentence of your second paragraph is a plot point in an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia ("Science is a liar ... sometimes") : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0
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AndrewDucker 11y ago
Certainly the richest one: https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wealth-vs-evolution-jpeg.jpg?w=476&h=312 https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wealt...

Is US the only place that Evolution needs constant reinforcing?

by hohohmm 11y ago

Is US the only place that Evolution needs constant reinforcing?

palmer_eldritch 11y ago

Well, it's just a theory after all...

wallzz 11y ago
No it's a scientific fact now
- mdpopescu 11y ago
  As opposed to what other kind of fact? :)
  - user_0001 11y ago
    Religious "fact" ;-)
awjr 11y ago
Not sure you understand what "scientific theory" actually implies. "A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory A theory is a proven truth until disproved ;)
- palmer_eldritch 11y ago
  Oh, shi- I forgot: /sarcasm
  - antimagic 11y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law Tsk tsk, shame on you...

reustle 11y ago

Well, this article is from 2011. More so then than now, I believe.

smcl 11y ago

Tbh the sort of folks who don't believe in evolution are probably unlikely to be swayed by evidence. I think some of the religious arguments against evolution genuinely claim that fossil records used to support evolution are put on earth by God to test his believers. Not much you can say against that :-/ I've never seen this belief expressed in person (only on the net) so hopefully it isn't so prevalent

opposite_moron 11y ago
Possibly some believe this. But those who I have come across find macroevolution very hard to believe and have no qualms with small variations among "species". They say that there were different sets of creation which then something happened to one set(died out?) and another set was put in place. Also the fact that scientists admit themselves they have pretty much no idea how life first began. These are the two biggest issues of contention for most people. A few other criticisms I've heard from people: - How many times have scientists claimed to be certain about something with their "evidence" and then switched their position at another time? I know this is seen as a plus to many but it's not an invalid concern. - Science cannot nor does it claim to be something one can use to acquire certainty about anything. You can't really prove anything with the scientific method. It's based on observation and induction(not mathematical) which are inherently flawed. - From the most basic interactions people have with science is food and medicine. We've seen how "great" GMO's have been and how many medicines have harmed people and have been taken off the shelves. It's not strange for someone to go to 5 different doctors with one set of symptoms and get 5 different diagnoses each with a different solution. Before I'm attacked, I want to mention I am conveying what I've heard. Honestly, nobody will listen to you speak out of your emotions. A lot of people claim to be objective but then resort to name calling and exhibiting anger.
- smcl 11y ago
  Interestingly the first sentence of your second paragraph is a plot point in an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia ("Science is a liar ... sometimes") : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0
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AndrewDucker 11y ago

Certainly the richest one: https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wealth-vs-evolution-jpeg.jpg?w=476&h=312 https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/wealt...