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Just choose "No, I don't want to participate in the customer experience improvement program". But that would spoil the fun of these "spying" stories on Forbes

by exodust 11y ago

Just choose "No, I don't want to participate in the customer experience improvement program". But that would spoil the fun of these "spying" stories on Forbes and the like. Funny how Forbes hides the site navigation behind a hamburger menu even for desktop browsers. And scrolling down loads new content and auto-switches you to a different URL. It's so clunky and awful, one can only guess at the design decisions behind such a cluster-fk. Suddenly the content at the top is not there and you're on a new page, just from scrolling down a bit. I guess this is another example of mobile first gone wrong.

benbenolson 11y ago
That doesn't opt you out of the majority of things.
- exodust 11y ago
  It opts you out of the telemetry being discussed here. Says so right there on the MS support note for the update. If you have evidence to suggest that's not true, then let's have it. Otherwise, all you're doing is making vague statements without backing them up.
mappu 11y ago
>Just choose "No, I don't want to participate in the customer experience improvement program". Have you read http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-w... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10037753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10037753 ? Anecdotally, i recently experienced this issue http://superuser.com/a/891516 http://superuser.com/a/891516 despite being already opted out of the customer experience improvement program.
- exodust 11y ago
  This thread is about Win 7 and 8. The first two articles you link to are about Windows 10. The stack exchange link you mention looks isolated to that user's CPU issue. So isolated, he answers his own question. Comments under the answer from someone else suggests that opting out of CEI solved the issue for that user. So, as already mentioned, opting out of CEI is all it takes to not worry about MS spying on Win7/8 users. Windows 10 might have issues, but that's another matter.
stuaxo 11y ago
That doesn't help non-techie people who might not assume that everything they type goes to MS.
- exodust 11y ago
  Non-techie people? You mean people who don't know what to do when presented with the following choice... "Personalize your speech, typing, and inking input by sending contacts and calendar details, along with other associated input data to Microsoft"... ON / OFF Are you suggesting that successfully comprehending the above requires technical knowledge? I'm not defending MS for whatever Windows 10 privacy issues they're over-stepping, but what they're doing is nothing more than playing catch-up with the other tech giants. MS should explain each option with a "learn more" link that goes into details. Beyond that, anyone who has a non-rooted Android or iPhone is sending a lot more data back to Apple and "trusted partners" than is made known or transparent.
  - pohl 11y ago
    Wait, so if I think what I type is personal, and I want to keep it personal, should I say yes or no to the request to personalize it? No, understanding the question does not require technical knowledge, but it does require advanced disambiguation skills. This question looks designed to prey on the ignorant.
    - yuhong 11y ago
      I don't think it is literally actual keystrokes that are being sent to MS.

by exodust 11y ago

benbenolson 11y ago

That doesn't opt you out of the majority of things.

exodust 11y ago
It opts you out of the telemetry being discussed here. Says so right there on the MS support note for the update. If you have evidence to suggest that's not true, then let's have it. Otherwise, all you're doing is making vague statements without backing them up.

mappu 11y ago

>Just choose "No, I don't want to participate in the customer experience improvement program". Have you read http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/ http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-w... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10037753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10037753 ? Anecdotally, i recently experienced this issue http://superuser.com/a/891516 http://superuser.com/a/891516 despite being already opted out of the customer experience improvement program.

exodust 11y ago
This thread is about Win 7 and 8. The first two articles you link to are about Windows 10. The stack exchange link you mention looks isolated to that user's CPU issue. So isolated, he answers his own question. Comments under the answer from someone else suggests that opting out of CEI solved the issue for that user. So, as already mentioned, opting out of CEI is all it takes to not worry about MS spying on Win7/8 users. Windows 10 might have issues, but that's another matter.

stuaxo 11y ago

That doesn't help non-techie people who might not assume that everything they type goes to MS.

exodust 11y ago
Non-techie people? You mean people who don't know what to do when presented with the following choice... "Personalize your speech, typing, and inking input by sending contacts and calendar details, along with other associated input data to Microsoft"... ON / OFF Are you suggesting that successfully comprehending the above requires technical knowledge? I'm not defending MS for whatever Windows 10 privacy issues they're over-stepping, but what they're doing is nothing more than playing catch-up with the other tech giants. MS should explain each option with a "learn more" link that goes into details. Beyond that, anyone who has a non-rooted Android or iPhone is sending a lot more data back to Apple and "trusted partners" than is made known or transparent.
- pohl 11y ago
  Wait, so if I think what I type is personal, and I want to keep it personal, should I say yes or no to the request to personalize it? No, understanding the question does not require technical knowledge, but it does require advanced disambiguation skills. This question looks designed to prey on the ignorant.
  - yuhong 11y ago
    I don't think it is literally actual keystrokes that are being sent to MS.