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The people behind TheGrid are also the same people behind Grid Stylesheets, which uses an implementation of the cassowary constraint system to facilitate web la

The people behind TheGrid are also the same people behind Grid Stylesheets, which uses an implementation of the cassowary constraint system to facilitate web layout: https://gridstylesheets.org/ https://gridstylesheets.org/ Grid Stylesheets are actually a pretty compelling approach and it was well-received here when they first shared it with HN. While the claims about machine learning and AI are arguably eyeroll-worthy, there's definitely some non-trivial engineering powering their service. They aren't peddling vaporware and it's not a scam. I don't think OP's knee-jerk reaction here is fair—and it certainly doesn't seem to be based on an evaluation of the actual technology in question.

rstupek 11y ago
I think the OP is saying he can't evaluate the actual technology in question because there is nothing to see. You are asked to take the word of thegrid folks that they have something and that they have 100 people testing it.
- segphault 11y ago
  Yes, but OP is wrong when he says that there is nothing to see. He just didn't take the time to even look. The source code of the underlying layout engine is published on GitHub: https://github.com/gss/engine https://github.com/gss/engine
  - mbesto 11y ago
    But that's not the commercial asset that "The Grid Co" is demonstrating. They are abstracting that underlying framework, to make a more usable asset to non-technical people, akin to a SquareSpace. The people who have bought into this notion (i.e. the "founding backers") have seen almost little to no substance to establish the latter. The argument is that they are essentially being tricked. The resulting question ("is it OK to start a company this way?") is probably much more ethical in nature than anything.
  - d4tocchini 11y ago
    Much of our platform is still closed-source. GSS is one of many libs we've open-sourced & there are many more to come... We're also the guys behind http://noflojs.org/ http://noflojs.org/ http://www.imgflo.org/ http://www.imgflo.org/ & flowhub.io. You can see some of our open repos here: https://github.com/the-grid/ https://github.com/the-grid/
tedunangst 11y ago
Questions to ask: will they eventually deliver something that roughly satisfies their claims? (Yes?) will they eventually deliver something akin to what their backers expected? (No?)
- ricardobeat 11y ago
  Have you backed the project, and what are your expectations? I don't agree with the author that what they promise is out of reach of today's tech, they are relatively simple optimisation problems.

rstupek 11y ago

I think the OP is saying he can't evaluate the actual technology in question because there is nothing to see. You are asked to take the word of thegrid folks that they have something and that they have 100 people testing it.

segphault 11y ago
Yes, but OP is wrong when he says that there is nothing to see. He just didn't take the time to even look. The source code of the underlying layout engine is published on GitHub: https://github.com/gss/engine https://github.com/gss/engine
- mbesto 11y ago
  But that's not the commercial asset that "The Grid Co" is demonstrating. They are abstracting that underlying framework, to make a more usable asset to non-technical people, akin to a SquareSpace. The people who have bought into this notion (i.e. the "founding backers") have seen almost little to no substance to establish the latter. The argument is that they are essentially being tricked. The resulting question ("is it OK to start a company this way?") is probably much more ethical in nature than anything.
- d4tocchini 11y ago
  Much of our platform is still closed-source. GSS is one of many libs we've open-sourced & there are many more to come... We're also the guys behind http://noflojs.org/ http://noflojs.org/ http://www.imgflo.org/ http://www.imgflo.org/ & flowhub.io. You can see some of our open repos here: https://github.com/the-grid/ https://github.com/the-grid/

tedunangst 11y ago

Questions to ask: will they eventually deliver something that roughly satisfies their claims? (Yes?) will they eventually deliver something akin to what their backers expected? (No?)

ricardobeat 11y ago
Have you backed the project, and what are your expectations? I don't agree with the author that what they promise is out of reach of today's tech, they are relatively simple optimisation problems.