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It takes too long for the deliberative mind to make a decision, because thinking through the situation would take ten seconds or more. The way you describe it i

by Joeri 11y ago

It takes too long for the deliberative mind to make a decision, because thinking through the situation would take ten seconds or more. The way you describe it is not what happens. In actuality the animal brain will make an intuitive decision, and the rational brain will then invent an explanation for that decision and pretend it was going to make that decision all along. By contrast a driverless car will always make deliberative decisions, so if anything the only morally right decision is to let the algorithm decide, because whatever its process it will still reach the right conclusion more often than a monkey brain evolved to avoid lions trying to decide whether to turn the wheel of a car or not.

dogma1138 11y ago
I would disagree if there's enough time to react there's enough time for a choice now it doesn't mean you can have a lengthy internal deliberation but your mind will take the current biases into a fact. There's allot of stuff you are doing without realizing it people for example drive 10-20% slower with a child in their car without doing that intentionally, while men tend to speed up while having an attractive woman as a passenger you will behave differently and make different choices based on the situation you are in. I've been involved in several accidents / near accidents in my life and in all of them i have enough time to react and make a decision, if you can't react and it's not some one really jumping infront of you which means you hit them before you even notice them it means you are driving too fast or otherwise distracted in the 1st place. I don't care about morality i care about the best outcome for me as it see it i don't want my car to sway into incoming traffic because it calculated that it's a lower risk of serious injury than hitting an idiot on a motorbike that decided to do an illegal uturn, That situation is from experience i couldn't way left because i might hit incoming traffic if i would say right i would hit the cars to my right if I would emergency break i would still hit him and most likely cause a chain accident with the car/s behind me so i went on knowing that i would most likely hit him, I've manage to get enough speed and stick close enough to the right to not him but even if i would've in my opinion that would've been the best situation even if it was the 1st or 2nd highest chance for some one to be seriously injured use case. Now I don't remember slowing and thinking hmm can't do left, can't do right, can't break, I remember my eyes running from left to right for a couple of milliseconds and then speeding up instinctively but it was still a decision i made. Now if it was a kid on a side walk I would've swayed right without a doubt even tho i could've gotten hit by a passing car or driving some one else of the road, and if i had my kid in the car? well if mowing down and entire puppy orphanage was the least risky scenario for me i would've done that in a heartbeat.

by Joeri 11y ago

dogma1138 11y ago

I would disagree if there's enough time to react there's enough time for a choice now it doesn't mean you can have a lengthy internal deliberation but your mind will take the current biases into a fact. There's allot of stuff you are doing without realizing it people for example drive 10-20% slower with a child in their car without doing that intentionally, while men tend to speed up while having an attractive woman as a passenger you will behave differently and make different choices based on the situation you are in. I've been involved in several accidents / near accidents in my life and in all of them i have enough time to react and make a decision, if you can't react and it's not some one really jumping infront of you which means you hit them before you even notice them it means you are driving too fast or otherwise distracted in the 1st place. I don't care about morality i care about the best outcome for me as it see it i don't want my car to sway into incoming traffic because it calculated that it's a lower risk of serious injury than hitting an idiot on a motorbike that decided to do an illegal uturn, That situation is from experience i couldn't way left because i might hit incoming traffic if i would say right i would hit the cars to my right if I would emergency break i would still hit him and most likely cause a chain accident with the car/s behind me so i went on knowing that i would most likely hit him, I've manage to get enough speed and stick close enough to the right to not him but even if i would've in my opinion that would've been the best situation even if it was the 1st or 2nd highest chance for some one to be seriously injured use case. Now I don't remember slowing and thinking hmm can't do left, can't do right, can't break, I remember my eyes running from left to right for a couple of milliseconds and then speeding up instinctively but it was still a decision i made. Now if it was a kid on a side walk I would've swayed right without a doubt even tho i could've gotten hit by a passing car or driving some one else of the road, and if i had my kid in the car? well if mowing down and entire puppy orphanage was the least risky scenario for me i would've done that in a heartbeat.