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I'm totally for self driving cars but if press myself I can think of harder to solve problems than bad repair. How about hackers who tinker for fun and adjust a

I'm totally for self driving cars but if press myself I can think of harder to solve problems than bad repair. How about hackers who tinker for fun and adjust all the parameters to the edges of tolerance. Drive like a race car mode or drive like a James Bond city chase mode. Or of course cheap and easy slow moving cruise missile bombs. Kind of like anonymity on 4chan what will anonymity on cheap cars do? Send a car full of shit to your ex. Send a car to crash into their house. Use face recognition and phone tracking to run over a specific person. I'm sure some of those aren't likely but computer run cars and drones certainly open new ways for mischief

DonHopkins 11y ago
>Send a car full of shit to your ex. That's an example of a task that a horse drawn carriage could perform better than a driverless car.
Natsu 11y ago
Hackers might be able to do worse, but someone being cheap on repair (either the person or the mechanic) is likely to be a far more common risk (the kind we underestimate).
mc808 11y ago
Also, what will police do when they can't count on almost everyone carrying a state-issued ID card on them at all times? Dollars to doughnuts (no pun intended), carrying ID will become mandatory as driver's licenses become less common.
- lmm 11y ago
  Eh. I live in London. Many (most?) people don't drive. No mandatory ID laws. Society continues to function.
  - mc808 11y ago
    Not yet, but wasn't there recently a big national ID program enacted and then repealed? Eventually people will be too weary to push back. In the US, it's very common for police to "request" identification in routine encounters with pedestrians and fly off the handle if they don't get what they want. People say it's a post-9/11 world, but this happened to me many times in the '90s.
    - Natsu 11y ago
      As I understand it, you cannot refuse to identify yourself, but you don't have to produce ID if you don't have it on you.
    - lmm 11y ago
      > Not yet, but wasn't there recently a big national ID program enacted and then repealed? Eventually people will be too weary to push back. The then-government announced a proposal. They were opposed by the other main parties, and voted out at the next election. Prediction is hard, but I don't see it happening.
      - rjsw 11y ago
        It was more than a proposal, the cards were available and some people received them. All this was before immigration became such a hot topic, I could see mandatory ID being proposed again in the UK.
  - jdietrich 11y ago
    You don't need to carry a driving license even if you do drive. If you're stopped and don't have your documents then the police can issue a HO/RT1 notice, which requires you to present your license and your MOT and insurance certificates at a police station within seven days. Carrying those documents in your car can save you an errand, but it isn't legally required.

DonHopkins 11y ago

>Send a car full of shit to your ex. That's an example of a task that a horse drawn carriage could perform better than a driverless car.

Natsu 11y ago

Hackers might be able to do worse, but someone being cheap on repair (either the person or the mechanic) is likely to be a far more common risk (the kind we underestimate).

mc808 11y ago

Also, what will police do when they can't count on almost everyone carrying a state-issued ID card on them at all times? Dollars to doughnuts (no pun intended), carrying ID will become mandatory as driver's licenses become less common.

lmm 11y ago
Eh. I live in London. Many (most?) people don't drive. No mandatory ID laws. Society continues to function.
- mc808 11y ago
  Not yet, but wasn't there recently a big national ID program enacted and then repealed? Eventually people will be too weary to push back. In the US, it's very common for police to "request" identification in routine encounters with pedestrians and fly off the handle if they don't get what they want. People say it's a post-9/11 world, but this happened to me many times in the '90s.
  - Natsu 11y ago
    As I understand it, you cannot refuse to identify yourself, but you don't have to produce ID if you don't have it on you.
  - lmm 11y ago
    > Not yet, but wasn't there recently a big national ID program enacted and then repealed? Eventually people will be too weary to push back. The then-government announced a proposal. They were opposed by the other main parties, and voted out at the next election. Prediction is hard, but I don't see it happening.
    - rjsw 11y ago
      It was more than a proposal, the cards were available and some people received them. All this was before immigration became such a hot topic, I could see mandatory ID being proposed again in the UK.
- jdietrich 11y ago
  You don't need to carry a driving license even if you do drive. If you're stopped and don't have your documents then the police can issue a HO/RT1 notice, which requires you to present your license and your MOT and insurance certificates at a police station within seven days. Carrying those documents in your car can save you an errand, but it isn't legally required.