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> And although it sounds kind of mean and critical, it also allowed and generated a lot of nice things -- co-operation, altruism (one can argue forced altruism,
by fweespeech 11y ago
> And although it sounds kind of mean and critical, it also allowed and generated a lot of nice things -- co-operation, altruism (one can argue forced altruism, "god said, be nice to your neighbor Jimmy, or you'll burn in hell forever! -- Erm..., ok, will do definitely" might not be a true altruism, but that is a different discussion), it allowed for the care of the sick, etc...
I don't agree.
The "nice things" that religion enabled already existed before religion. Any of the "nice things" that got in the way of business for the powerful, well, became unimportant pretty fast. Charitable activities were funded by the wealthy as a political tool before a "moralizing god" existed, let alone became a common belief system.
You cooperated with other people in your society for mutual benefit, primarily. People cooperated long before religion the popularity of a handful of monotheistic, moralizing gods.
Being uncooperative on the level a religion punished [and sometimes, violent] is almost never beneficial except in extreme circumstances.
- rdtsc 11y agoLike I said in a sibling response. It is not all or nothing. Maybe a better way to put it is that moralizing religion just acts as an amplifier. It can amplify over time either those "nice things" or "negative things". And over thousands of years that kind of a religion just gave enough of statistical advantage. Maybe another way to think about it is that a moralizing god religion is more brutal and violent such that those adherents managed to wipe out and conquer all the rest.
- qzcx 11y agoDoesn't sound like you read the article. It states that these things came before, but religion enabled them to expand them to larger societies.
- Torgo 11y agoThe moralizing god is a policeman installed in your brain, so you obey the rules when the corporeal police aren't around. It is a social hack to minimize cheaters.