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Do you have infinite time and omniscence? If not there isn't. If Morning Edition is an echo chamber, all media is.

by navait 11y ago

mc32 11y ago
My feeling I that it's a middle brow feelgood machine. It says the things and supports the things which make middle brow listeners like myself happy. Oh, good, they will take care of my guilt for me simultaneously supporting their/our pet causes, so now I don't have to. Npr is not self critical beyond the surface. It's a given their causes are the right causes. Let's say the housing crisis in major metros. There is never a comprehensive look. What's good, what's bad. It's gentrification is driving out the poor wheelchair bound immigrant who teaches math at the local school, of the market, therefore we know it's bad by definition. I want to know What is done in china, India, Britain, Germany, Nigeria when they face "gentrification" which they do too. Nope, it's a given their take is the right take. Make me happy, make me feel good, feel guilty for me.
- mmorris 11y ago
  Do you ever listen to On The Media[0]? It's also an NPR show, so perhaps it runs into similar issues, but I think they tend to be fairly skeptical and ask questions about these kind of issues (media bias, etc.). Warning: it can be extremely depressing to listen to specific examples of how poor a job the media does of actually covering "The News". [0]: http://www.onthemedia.org/ http://www.onthemedia.org/
  - mc32 11y ago
    Thanks for the link, I listened to the Ramos bit. To me, it was noticeable the narrator already took a point of view. It also advocated taking points of view and saw taking a point of view on certain issues necessary (in this case advocating for undocumented immigrants). Immigrations is a tough issue. There is the human factor. When confronted with the individual cases, it's hard to make a case against open borders. But if we took it to the extreme, we know neither the US nor Europe can accommodate the rest of the world without becoming like the world those people are trying to avoid. (Most of the people are economic immigrants). In addition, suppose we could sustain a European or North American lifestyle. What would resource demand look like if either sustained 100 million or 500 million immigrants? Also, what is the responsibility of the bad governments for their poor stewardship of their own people? And what about the questions of a North American or European working freely in anyone of those countries? I think it's a two way street. If we open our borders, so should they. And it should be reciprocal. We open it up to Cuba, Cuba opens it up to us. We open it up to the Netherlands, they open it up to us, etc.

Do you have infinite time and omniscence? If not there isn't. If Morning Edition is an echo chamber, all media is.

by navait 11y ago

Do you have infinite time and omniscence? If not there isn't. If Morning Edition is an echo chamber, all media is.

mc32 11y ago

My feeling I that it's a middle brow feelgood machine. It says the things and supports the things which make middle brow listeners like myself happy. Oh, good, they will take care of my guilt for me simultaneously supporting their/our pet causes, so now I don't have to. Npr is not self critical beyond the surface. It's a given their causes are the right causes. Let's say the housing crisis in major metros. There is never a comprehensive look. What's good, what's bad. It's gentrification is driving out the poor wheelchair bound immigrant who teaches math at the local school, of the market, therefore we know it's bad by definition. I want to know What is done in china, India, Britain, Germany, Nigeria when they face "gentrification" which they do too. Nope, it's a given their take is the right take. Make me happy, make me feel good, feel guilty for me.

mmorris 11y ago
Do you ever listen to On The Media[0]? It's also an NPR show, so perhaps it runs into similar issues, but I think they tend to be fairly skeptical and ask questions about these kind of issues (media bias, etc.). Warning: it can be extremely depressing to listen to specific examples of how poor a job the media does of actually covering "The News". [0]: http://www.onthemedia.org/ http://www.onthemedia.org/
- mc32 11y ago
  Thanks for the link, I listened to the Ramos bit. To me, it was noticeable the narrator already took a point of view. It also advocated taking points of view and saw taking a point of view on certain issues necessary (in this case advocating for undocumented immigrants). Immigrations is a tough issue. There is the human factor. When confronted with the individual cases, it's hard to make a case against open borders. But if we took it to the extreme, we know neither the US nor Europe can accommodate the rest of the world without becoming like the world those people are trying to avoid. (Most of the people are economic immigrants). In addition, suppose we could sustain a European or North American lifestyle. What would resource demand look like if either sustained 100 million or 500 million immigrants? Also, what is the responsibility of the bad governments for their poor stewardship of their own people? And what about the questions of a North American or European working freely in anyone of those countries? I think it's a two way street. If we open our borders, so should they. And it should be reciprocal. We open it up to Cuba, Cuba opens it up to us. We open it up to the Netherlands, they open it up to us, etc.