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I've gone from viewing the people in the database as maliciously motivated cheating jerks who deserved their outing to complete lame asses I simply feel sorry f

by s_dev 11y ago

I've gone from viewing the people in the database as maliciously motivated cheating jerks who deserved their outing to complete lame asses I simply feel sorry for. Very few of the women on the database were actually real. They charged for deleting data and never did. Every successive revelation makes the AM users look like chumps and AM employees look like incompetent fools. I would have thought such a security breach would have taken down the entire business model but nope they're still going. I'm sure a lot more senior staff will have to step down in order to rebrand at some point so they can distance themselves from this disaster.

BinaryIdiot 11y ago
Also keep in mind that the whole affair thing was a branding change done in 2009 so many who signed up before may not have been looking for that. Then you have stories about people who were looking for a discrete relationship and wasn't commuting adultery they just needed to be discrete because of personal reasons (like living in a country that imprisons or executes people who are gay). Plus anyone can add someone to the service AND there are plenty of people who enjoy the trill of simply looking and not doing anything. So yeah I don't think it's a slam dunk that they're all "cheating jerks". Though I'm sure plenty are :)
- inversionOf 11y ago
  Also keep in mind that the whole affair thing was a branding change done in 2009 2005- http://www.cbsnews.com/news/double-trouble/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/double-trouble/ "Darren Morgenstern is a happily married man who runs ashleymadison.com, a Web site for attached people with cheating on their minds. "When monogamy becomes monotony: That's our trademark slogan," 2002- https://web.archive.org/web/20040214171743/http://www.ashleymadison.com/public/media/press/2.php https://web.archive.org/web/20040214171743/http://www.ashley... The site identified itself specifically for adultery, and that angle earned them an enormous amount of free press.
  - BinaryIdiot 11y ago
    Hmm I had read in several places it was in 2009. Well there goes that point then.
- lotharbot 11y ago
  > "anyone can add someone to the service" Yes, though it's harder to add someone as a paying member using a card in their name and tied to their address. Based on the stories that have come out, it sounds like there are dates on those payments. That doesn't necessarily mean everyone was a "cheating jerk", and even if they were, that doesn't necessarily mean a judgmental response is the healthiest response the rest of us can give.
  - differentView 11y ago
    Still relatively easy with some prepaid cards that let's you use whatever name and address. Also some billing processors don't even check the address.
- GhotiFish 11y ago
  I would guess the majority of AM's user base only had the thrill of looking and not doing anything. Of the "cheating jerks" that were "cheating jerks", who did they have to cheat with?

by s_dev 11y ago

BinaryIdiot 11y ago

Also keep in mind that the whole affair thing was a branding change done in 2009 so many who signed up before may not have been looking for that. Then you have stories about people who were looking for a discrete relationship and wasn't commuting adultery they just needed to be discrete because of personal reasons (like living in a country that imprisons or executes people who are gay). Plus anyone can add someone to the service AND there are plenty of people who enjoy the trill of simply looking and not doing anything. So yeah I don't think it's a slam dunk that they're all "cheating jerks". Though I'm sure plenty are :)

inversionOf 11y ago
Also keep in mind that the whole affair thing was a branding change done in 2009 2005- http://www.cbsnews.com/news/double-trouble/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/double-trouble/ "Darren Morgenstern is a happily married man who runs ashleymadison.com, a Web site for attached people with cheating on their minds. "When monogamy becomes monotony: That's our trademark slogan," 2002- https://web.archive.org/web/20040214171743/http://www.ashleymadison.com/public/media/press/2.php https://web.archive.org/web/20040214171743/http://www.ashley... The site identified itself specifically for adultery, and that angle earned them an enormous amount of free press.
- BinaryIdiot 11y ago
  Hmm I had read in several places it was in 2009. Well there goes that point then.
lotharbot 11y ago
> "anyone can add someone to the service" Yes, though it's harder to add someone as a paying member using a card in their name and tied to their address. Based on the stories that have come out, it sounds like there are dates on those payments. That doesn't necessarily mean everyone was a "cheating jerk", and even if they were, that doesn't necessarily mean a judgmental response is the healthiest response the rest of us can give.
- differentView 11y ago
  Still relatively easy with some prepaid cards that let's you use whatever name and address. Also some billing processors don't even check the address.
GhotiFish 11y ago
I would guess the majority of AM's user base only had the thrill of looking and not doing anything. Of the "cheating jerks" that were "cheating jerks", who did they have to cheat with?