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I have not, perhaps I was being a bit hyperbolic but I think in general the sentiment is still mostly true.

Alupis 11y ago
If we're talking about Desktops running on VMWare, Fedora should give you what you need. Of course it's personal preference, so Ubuntu will work as well. However, if you are using it as a server of sorts, you really shouldn't use either of those distros. Use CentOS or RHEL, or something purpose built for a long term stable server. Yes I"m aware of Ubuntu and Fedora server editions -- but both distros are focused on being jacks-of-all-trades instead of purpose built as a server only. Clearly, saying Ubuntu works best on VMWare is a fallacy. Any Triple-A distro will work fine with minimal fuss.
- mreiland 11y ago
  Thank you for not being a jackass who starts preaching to me about what I should or should not be doing with absolutely no knowledge of my work or my use case. I'm so glad you avoided doing that.
  - Alupis 11y ago
    I'm not sure why you feel you need to be so disingenuous here - you're all over this thread arguing with everyone about Ubuntu being the best. But I'll bite. From your several posts, it's become clear you are running an Ubuntu guest as a desktop on top of VMWare. It seems rather silly to pay for a full VMware license to just run some desktops, not to mention hypervisors like VMware and Xen really aren't great at doing just desktop guests. You make claims that Ubuntu works better "hands down" on VMware than any other distro - which is absurd. It's far more likely you either haven't tried, or did something wrong. The things you point to that are "better" on Ubuntu are virtually (or literally) the same things on other distros, or have zero bearing of whatever distro the guest is (pause and resume are features of the hypervisor, not your distro). In any event, everything I previously said still holds true. If you need a server, use a server-focused distro.
    - mreiland 11y ago
      You misunderstood me, but it looks like you're not the only one who did so I probably could have worded it better. > If I get to choose I'll run arch linux, but inside vmware it's ubuntu hands down. What I mean is the distro I reach for first is Arch Linux unless it has to run in vmware, then the choice for me is Ubuntu, hands down. I was making no comment about it being the best vmware distro "hands down". The entire post was just a quick note that I choose to run Ubuntu for reasons other than the environment reasons cited by the poster I was responding to. Having said that, this will be the last time I respond to you. You've obviously got some strange personal stake in what I consider to be a good linux distro and I have better things to do than argue with you about it.
- tribaal 11y ago
  > However, if you are using it as a server of sorts, you really shouldn't use either of those distros. You are saying around 60% of sysadmins using Amazon instances are wrong. The odds are not in your favour :)
  - Alupis 11y ago
    > You are saying around 60% of sysadmins using Amazon instances are wrong. Yet, 100% of EC2 is built with RHEL/CentOS + Xen.[1][2] Ubuntu was the default VM when they launched EC2, so most users naturally just used the default. But even in Amazon's eyes, when doing "serious" server work, reach for a purpose-built server distro -- not a jack-of-all-trades. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-ec2-cloud-is-made-up-of-almost-half-a-million-linux-servers/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-ec2-cloud-is-made-up-of-... [2] http://bleikertz.com/blog/amazon_ec2_underlying_architecture.html http://bleikertz.com/blog/amazon_ec2_underlying_architecture...

If we're talking about Desktops running on VMWare, Fedora should give you what you need. Of course it's personal preference, so Ubuntu will work as well. However, if you are using it as a server of sorts, you really shouldn't use either of those distros. Use CentOS or RHEL, or something purpose built for a long term stable server. Yes I"m aware of Ubuntu and Fedora server editions -- but both distros are focused on being jacks-of-all-trades instead of purpose built as a server only. Clearly, saying Ubuntu works best on VMWare is a fallacy. Any Triple-A distro will work fine with minimal fuss.

mreiland 11y ago
Thank you for not being a jackass who starts preaching to me about what I should or should not be doing with absolutely no knowledge of my work or my use case. I'm so glad you avoided doing that.
- Alupis 11y ago
  I'm not sure why you feel you need to be so disingenuous here - you're all over this thread arguing with everyone about Ubuntu being the best. But I'll bite. From your several posts, it's become clear you are running an Ubuntu guest as a desktop on top of VMWare. It seems rather silly to pay for a full VMware license to just run some desktops, not to mention hypervisors like VMware and Xen really aren't great at doing just desktop guests. You make claims that Ubuntu works better "hands down" on VMware than any other distro - which is absurd. It's far more likely you either haven't tried, or did something wrong. The things you point to that are "better" on Ubuntu are virtually (or literally) the same things on other distros, or have zero bearing of whatever distro the guest is (pause and resume are features of the hypervisor, not your distro). In any event, everything I previously said still holds true. If you need a server, use a server-focused distro.
  - mreiland 11y ago
    You misunderstood me, but it looks like you're not the only one who did so I probably could have worded it better. > If I get to choose I'll run arch linux, but inside vmware it's ubuntu hands down. What I mean is the distro I reach for first is Arch Linux unless it has to run in vmware, then the choice for me is Ubuntu, hands down. I was making no comment about it being the best vmware distro "hands down". The entire post was just a quick note that I choose to run Ubuntu for reasons other than the environment reasons cited by the poster I was responding to. Having said that, this will be the last time I respond to you. You've obviously got some strange personal stake in what I consider to be a good linux distro and I have better things to do than argue with you about it.
tribaal 11y ago
> However, if you are using it as a server of sorts, you really shouldn't use either of those distros. You are saying around 60% of sysadmins using Amazon instances are wrong. The odds are not in your favour :)
- Alupis 11y ago
  > You are saying around 60% of sysadmins using Amazon instances are wrong. Yet, 100% of EC2 is built with RHEL/CentOS + Xen.[1][2] Ubuntu was the default VM when they launched EC2, so most users naturally just used the default. But even in Amazon's eyes, when doing "serious" server work, reach for a purpose-built server distro -- not a jack-of-all-trades. [1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-ec2-cloud-is-made-up-of-almost-half-a-million-linux-servers/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-ec2-cloud-is-made-up-of-... [2] http://bleikertz.com/blog/amazon_ec2_underlying_architecture.html http://bleikertz.com/blog/amazon_ec2_underlying_architecture...